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Cuba - the next huge EFL destination!
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:39 pm    Post subject: Cuba - the next huge EFL destination! Reply with quote

When the beard dies, Cuba will go into a political and economic freefall but you can be sure that the US will be there to uphold their idea of democracy.

However, it will mean millions of Cubans who will want to learn English to work in the tourism industry on the island or to to go and live and work in Miami.

Which is good news for us! Laughing

I think this will all happen in the next 5 years.

Will you be part of the great exodus from Korea to Cuba?

The average ESL/EFL teacher is bound to want to live in Cuba than Korea
or so I would have thought!
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll be there!

mojitos for all!
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Scarlet13



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a long history of aggression between America and Cuba. Do you think Cuba would welcome U.S. support? That does not seem likely to me. Even if Americans were allowed to travel to Cuba would they want to? Would it be safe after decades of animosity? I think it would take longer than five years.
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scarlet13 wrote:
There is a long history of aggression between America and Cuba. Do you think Cuba would welcome U.S. support? That does not seem likely to me. Even if Americans were allowed to travel to Cuba would they want to? Would it be safe after decades of animosity? I think it would take longer than five years.


I think the sanctions and the way it affects people are at a point that when the beard does die, if the Americans can offer a financial package like they did to the Japanese after the war and put money into the economy - in this case tourism. I think we can see a smooth transition from the state Cuba is in now to a pretty wealthy island with a prosperous population.

The thing is in Cuba now there is a booming tourist industry and it is booming without US dollars - just think what will happen when US tourism is finally allowed to spend their money there.

Fidel knows all this and thats why he has been inviting foreign investment from the Spanish - who will also be big benefactors along with the US when Fidel pops his clogs.

I don't think the transition will take long and I don't think Cubans - once they start to work and make decent money in the tourist sector - will hold any grudges, Now the Miami-Cubans? Thats a different story! Laughing

But along with tourism, I also think there will be a HUGE demand for learning English. If I had a 100 grand (UK sterling) I would hang onto it for a few more years yet and open a school there, it would be like the days of the goldrush! Cool
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skconqueror



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scarlet13 wrote:
There is a long history of aggression between America and Cuba. Do you think Cuba would welcome U.S. support? That does not seem likely to me. Even if Americans were allowed to travel to Cuba would they want to? Would it be safe after decades of animosity? I think it would take longer than five years.


Sweet a new place for us Canadians to teach Wink
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bejarano-korea



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:
Scarlet13 wrote:
There is a long history of aggression between America and Cuba. Do you think Cuba would welcome U.S. support? That does not seem likely to me. Even if Americans were allowed to travel to Cuba would they want to? Would it be safe after decades of animosity? I think it would take longer than five years.


Sweet a new place for us Canadians to teach Wink


I think the future of Cuba will be a huge place for Canadian businessmen and of course Canadian EFL teachers, a lot of Canadian tourists go to Cuba now and are held in high regard. So what does this mean for Korea? If it wasn't for the Canadians there would hardly be anyone here teaching English! Laughing

I don't think Americans will be the target of any spite, most people of the 'Hispanic' (for want of a better word) persuasion are live and let live about most things! Very Happy

The Miami-Cubans though are in for a shock if they think they are going back to reclaim the status quo pre-1959! Cool

The people who are going to take the cream from the top when Cuba becomes a capitalist society are the Spanish, the Canadians, the Americans and the people who are high up in Castro's present regime! Cool
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Bryan



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scarlet13 wrote:
There is a long history of aggression between America and Cuba. Do you think Cuba would welcome U.S. support? That does not seem likely to me. Even if Americans were allowed to travel to Cuba would they want to? Would it be safe after decades of animosity? I think it would take longer than five years.


There is animosity between the US and the slave-state Cuban government, not with Cubans as a whole. Most of the people in Cuba are yearning to be free. Most of the escapees in Florida are radically anti-Castro and adore the ideals America was founded on.
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By the way, good luck getting paid a decent wage by the majority of Cubans who make $2,000 per year in their communist slave pen.
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Bryan



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bejarano-korea wrote:

The people who are going to take the cream from the top when Cuba becomes a capitalist society are the Spanish, the Canadians, the Americans and the people who are high up in Castro's present regime! Cool


The people who are going to make the most money in post-communist Cuba are those who are the most economically productive, no matter what their nationality. If a Chinese man opens a series of factories in Cuba that are productive, he will make money.

The correct term for "Miami-Cubans" is American, by the way. They are Americans.
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bejarano-korea



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The people who are going to make the most money in post-communist Cuba are those who are the most economically productive, no matter what their nationality. If a Chinese man opens a series of factories in Cuba that are productive, he will make money.


Yes, and the most economically productive will be the people already with money - the truisms about capitalism is 'to make money you need money' or 'money comes to money' which of course the average Cuban hasn't got.

Who does have it will be foreign investors and the ones who will come in their droves are the nationalities that I have mentioned, Castro has courted Spanish investment for one reason only, and thats because he does not want to see US businesses take everything over once he dies.


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The correct term for "Miami-Cubans" is American, by the way. They are Americans.


Isn't 'Miami-Cuban' a term coined by the said community?

I don't think the Cuban population see Miami as a permemant home. Some might but I think the majority will be going back to get what they think is theirs when the beard pops his clogs.


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Scarlet13



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Latin-American history Proffessor who held America responsible for the extreme poverty in Cuba and not necessarily the communist regime. I don't want to over simplify his arguments, and truthfully I am not overly well versed with Cuban history (it is a VERY poorly represented field unfortunately) but isn't it possible that others would also hold America accountable? Fairly or not.
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bejarano-korea



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scarlet13 wrote:
I had a Latin-American history Proffessor who held America responsible for the extreme poverty in Cuba and not necessarily the communist regime. I don't want to over simplify his arguments, and truthfully I am not overly well versed with Cuban history (it is a VERY poorly represented field unfortunately) but isn't it possible that others would also hold America accountable? Fairly or not.


I think most people in the Spanish speaking Americas would hold America to account, they have their share of blame but in my opinion the Spanish used Cuba as a place of indentured slavery for nearly 300 years and kept the place backward as a result.

The funny thing is that the guerilla forces in Puerto Rico, Cuba and the Phillipennes were within an inch from overthrowing the Spanish king from their lands and winning independence when the Americans came in and took over those islands to form their little empire in 1898! Laughing

That the US goverment did little with their colonies or to improve the lot of the people living there doesn't endear them to the locals.
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rD.NaTas



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuban cigars and weed woooo
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it happens, expect some very low wages.

Dominican Republic for example, teachers are paid $200-300/month.
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Cerriowen



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you get paid $2000 a year, but the cost of weed is very low, therefore... for a lot of people, it's a fair exchange.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't castros son taking over?

just because castro dies doesn't mean the Ideology dies with him..

when kim jung il dies you think that will change north korea?
these countries have a faith a belief, a religion so to speak..

cuba... might be best if USA just takes it over..
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