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[Cognorati]

What ideas must I have on "men"? Which men: feminst heterosexual men? Gay men? The men in my family? Why would I have any perspective on men, in general?

I know what that is, luckily I have an education:

[cunning_stunt]

[anyway]

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[Cognorati]

But really, though, you've all converted me, and here I was thinking there was sexism in Korea...

I mean, I had this friend, see, a young woman from New Zealand, who was a coworker at my school.

Well one night, she went out clubbing and became intoxicated, and one of those tolerant and submissive Korean women, who are definetly not racist, let a Korean man ride home with my friend who was quite ill --

Well this Korean man's expression of his sexuality, his way of showing her "sexual attention" was to break down my friends door (who, at this point was slipping around in her own vomit), and raped her.

But you know what -- Korean police are really great and understanding (all those claims by those "radical" feminsts can't be trusted, especially their numbers): they didn't even take a report, let alone refer her to a crisis center or support systems -- but who would want to sit and talk with those feminst "hags", offering their psychological, unproven rhetoric -- "Fekk" them, and their false, allegedly emperical evidence. I mean, this happened to another poster on this forum, but that doesn't mean there's any pattern with the conduct of the Korean police! It could've happened in the west, for Pete's sake!

Luckily, I have worked with rape crisis centers and women who've been sexually abused, where I come from, so I was able to support my friend and get her to an international clinic -- not a crisis center, mind you, but a gynocologist who didn't even take semen swabs, or refer her to mental health professionals. But hey, <<Billy Pilgrim>> is right: Korea really is progressive, and anyone who would point out otherwise would have to be a racist, including anyone who is half-Asian...

But let me wrap this up, because according to <<Scarlett>> and <<Cunning Stunt>> violence against men, committed by women, is just as significant an issue as violence against women, and we need to devote as much space on this thread, about women's rights, to their anecdotes (nevermind that <<Cunning Stunt>> will never have to fear being raped anywhere, during his whole life span, almost anywhere he goes-- why is that? Oh there aren't "really busy guys" who will rape men, I gues, and women definetly aren't busy that way).

My friend was subject to sexual harassment on the job, as well, with an adminstrator actually coming into her classroom and asking students to vote on how attractive they found her on different days -- but hey, "mild sexual harassment in the forms that I've described... Get over it". No way that rape and harassment are simlilar threats, especially in the mind of rape survivor -- what freaks, gosh...

She started going out again, and that same tolerant, opinion-minded Korean female friend -- well, she was great. She did my friend a wonderful favor and contacted her rapist, and had him meet them at a club for a night of fun, although my coworker was unaware.

Whoa -- don't get upset, anyone! Please don't be surprised! This is a matter of cultural relativity. The Korean female said that maybe she'd want to have a talk with her rapist, and maybe they could be FRIENDS.

Oh yeah, I forgot: she also said that from her Korean perspective, it wasn't really rape, because she seemed to be attracted to him at the club that night (never mind that she actively resisted him, was vomiting, and suffered forced penetration).

So yo, those feminsts with their definitions of sexual assault, man, they're the ones with the problem. Societies should be allowed to formulate their own defintions of assault, as well has defintions of what constitutes a violation of a woman's rights, as with cases of genital mutilation, or child sex slavery -- but yo, dude, who cares about some freakin Africans in the boonies or some poor thai girls -- the majority of normal women (middle-class, white, educated "normal feminists") will never go through that shet, bro! How alarmist can you be (nevermind that I volunteered with some African women who had been mulilated). Let's not play the friggin race card!

But hey -- feminists need to lighten up: God forbid that an incident like that should be added to any phoney, trumped up, "radical" feminst stats. I'm sick of women playing the rape card! And we shouldn't "demonize" male sexuality, because of one incident -- I so agree with <<Cunning Stunt>>.

And hey, if my friend or any other victims of rape were on this forum and tried to make a case for feminism, "Fekk" em. They're all man haters...

It's like <<Scarlett>> said, they're plenty of violent women out there, beating men. And you know what, just like <<Scarlett>> I'm sick of women pretending to be victims! Nevermind that they may be, so what: if you are raped, for Pete's sake, call the friggin police and -- WHOOPS! Women in Korea do that to no avail! Oh well. They should just be silenced and shouted out of any discussion of women's rights.

You know what, I don't even want to be heterosexual anymore. No way, dude, because sexism is the way that one can most express a love and "adoration" of women -- heck

im evenchanging my writin and pnktuashion, u feel me! no captals or spell chex chezmoi.

Bra i'm definetly a lezzie now cuz all femnists r u follow? in true daves esl form bring on the korean puzzy:

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[rD.NaTas]

[quote="Cognorati"]racist although I'm half-Asian (didn't care to dig deep enough before some have made their idiotic assertions, did they?)


More peculiar, I'M SUCH A MAN-HATER, PEOPLE WHO CAN FIND NO EVIDENCE OF IT
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Who the hell cares if your half asian, do you have to be white to be a racist? Anyone can be racist, you can even be racist against your own race...i think you have already shown yourself to be hateful and idiotic...the evidence is your smelly words....pew smelly!

[Scarlet13]

11% of rape victims are men. That number is ever increasing-- tragic that things are getting worse for everyone isn't it? Unless you think that rape or violence is only significant when it happens to a women, in which case I'm sure this will make some folks happy

I had a friend who was raped by a local celeb, and after much convincing she went to the police with her mother to report it. You know what the cop said to her? "My 10 year old daughter has more sense than you" and "you consented to sex when you got in his car". Wow who knew that agreeing to let someone drive on a date was consent to have sex. This guy lived in our neighbourhood and I'm sure he went on to rape again. She was also forbidden from telling anyone her story or she would face legal action. Sick.

This is not a problem in Korea exclusively.

Edit- I miss quoted the stat!

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Of course, if the Korean woman is raped and actually admits this to her family, then she will be shamed once again for bringing dishonor to the family name, the ancestors, etc.

One of the things that I respect most in life is the ability to take negative energy and mute it. To somehow turn it off, to negate it into nothing.

Anyone can create positive energy or negative energy. Anyone can end positive energy. But it takes a very special type of person to mute negative energy, to end it by not passing it on or internalizing it.

To be honest, I truly believe that women have been given this ability or developed this ability much more than men. Most probably they created this ability. Out of necessity.

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[Scarlet13]

I will try and find it again, I read it a few days back.

The number for the U.S. is 11% or 97,000 men a year. Nearly 400,000 men in prison.

http://www.stoprapevermont.org/stats/men.html

my bad i think i mixed up the stats....25% of men have commited some form of sexual assault, with men making up 10-11% of the victims.
99% of those crimes are committed by men. (as of 2002)

http://www.montana.edu/msr/docs/stats.html

http://www.montana.edu/msr/docs/stats.html "Rape is a serious problem in the United States today. The United States has the highest rape rate among countries which report such statistics"

http://www.wildelife.com/worth/stats/stats1.html

[Scarlet13]

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[cunning_stunt]

Men commit ( by a huge majority ) the sex crimes that go around . That is a well known fact . Like I mentioned before you have to wonder why this is the case . Nature or nurture ? Is it something inherent to men to be violent ? Or is it their social conditioning ?

Given that the gross majority of men are not interested in doing anything violent to anyone , one has to assume it's nurture .


Men conditioned in loving homes are extremely unlikely to commit these crimes , while those brought up as many men are in a cold and uncaring environment are . If you want stop crime against women then you last thing you want to do is alienate these men and treat them with less care ....you want to create the idea that men need and deserve love and change the way society treats men . Men act dysfunctionally not because they have too many rights....but because society is too callous about their feelings and they act out .

[rD.NaTas]

[Cognorati]

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