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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Politically things are in so much flux


Bush's long-term legacy might well be that he has turned the traditionally conservative party into the opposite (can't say liberal) insofar as the GOP has become the party of foreign intervention and social conservatism.

Obama (who I now think will likely be the nominee because of Kennedy's endorsement) will have to consolidate his black, young white, social liberal coalition with a fiscally conservative policy to create a governing coalition like FDR's. We could be in for a generation of Democratic rule.
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Interesting that McCain says he'll appoint 'managers'. Shades of Ronald Reagan Exclamation


Shades of Bill Clinton.

Clinton felt he ran on tackling the economy, so he should do something about it. But Clinton realized that he wasn't an expert on economics. So he gathered the experts and had bull sessions.

What resulted was a pragmatic approach to the economy not seen by Reagan or either Bush. The fact was, Clinton knew he was not an economic specialist. So he hired some on. The result was pretty solid. You can read all about this in My Life.

Since its obvious that McCain knows nothing about economics, its a strength that he admits that he does not. There's something a little scary about Ron Paul's pretensions to economic omniscience. Yes, he's the most economically fluent politician out there, but his avowed certitude on such matters should frighten more economists. [/u]


You might be interested in these two:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/167/don-luskin-named-economic-advisor-to-the-ron-paul-2008-presidential-campaign/
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/171/peter-schiff-named-economic-advisor-to-the-ron-paul-2008-presidential-campaign/

Ron Paul's the most well-versed in economics but he certainly isn't trying to go it alone.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
Kuros wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Interesting that McCain says he'll appoint 'managers'. Shades of Ronald Reagan Exclamation


Shades of Bill Clinton.

Clinton felt he ran on tackling the economy, so he should do something about it. But Clinton realized that he wasn't an expert on economics. So he gathered the experts and had bull sessions.

What resulted was a pragmatic approach to the economy not seen by Reagan or either Bush. The fact was, Clinton knew he was not an economic specialist. So he hired some on. The result was pretty solid. You can read all about this in My Life.

Since its obvious that McCain knows nothing about economics, its a strength that he admits that he does not. There's something a little scary about Ron Paul's pretensions to economic omniscience. Yes, he's the most economically fluent politician out there, but his avowed certitude on such matters should frighten more economists. [/u]


You might be interested in these two:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/167/don-luskin-named-economic-advisor-to-the-ron-paul-2008-presidential-campaign/
http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/171/peter-schiff-named-economic-advisor-to-the-ron-paul-2008-presidential-campaign/

Ron Paul's the most well-versed in economics but he certainly isn't trying to go it alone.


Alright, well I take back what was said about RP.
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stillnotking



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
The GOP has got nothing on the mudslinging of Obama and Hillary/Bill Combo.


That's just personality politics. The GOP is evincing real splits in the FisCon/DefCon/SoCon coalition for the first time since Reagan. If Huckabee becomes the nominee, it'll be a real bloodbath. Neither Clinton nor Obama, disliked though each may be by segments of the Dem electorate, has the potential to drive that kind of stake through the heart of their party.

FWIW, though, I think the Republicans will iron out their differences and close ranks behind a compromise candidate (probably McCain or Romney). The Reagan Coalition is being stretched, but it'll take more than this to really tear it apart.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Republicans have been on the wrong side of history ever since Teddy Roosevelt left office. Their only 'new' ideas have been to undo what the Democrats have done.
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