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Rteacher
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Location: Western MA, USA
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Unbreathable for Earth-designed bodies maybe, but not necessarily unbreathable for those designed to live on Mars.
And aren't there forms of life that breathe carbon dioxide even on this planet?
Yogic methods of travel are way more advanced than anything you're conditioned to accept, but some of you guys may be headed to Mars anyway ... |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
Unbreathable for Earth-designed bodies maybe, but not necessarily unbreathable for those designed to live on Mars.
And aren't there forms of life that breathe carbon dioxide even on this planet?
Yogic methods of travel are way more advanced than anything you're conditioned to accept, but some of you guys may be headed to Mars anyway ... |
Just shut up about the yoga crap for a second.
Scientists have found bacteria that could survive on Mars. Presumably, this bacteria could evolve the way Earth microbes evolved into multicellular life.
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/link=/headline_universe/mars_bacteria.html |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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You better fight that out with "mindmetoo" ...
[Of course, if both of you find yourselves forced to take birth as tiny worms/maggots (or even bacteria) in a pile of crap next life - don't say I didn't warn you ...  ] |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
| Yogic methods of travel are way more advanced than anything you're conditioned to accept, but some of you guys may be headed to Mars anyway ... |
Being stoned and/or brain damaged from poor breathing is not an actual form of travel |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
You better fight that out with "mindmetoo" ...
[Of course, if both of you find yourselves forced to take birth as tiny worms/maggots (or even bacteria) in a pile of crap next life - don't say I didn't warn you ... ] |
Yes, I'm willing to accept the bacteria could EVOLVE. |
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Rteacher
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| Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I would accept that the nonphysical spirit-soul inside the bacteria would automatically evolve to the next higher species (in terms of developed consciousness) that was particularly suited to conditions on Mars.
Since I believe the universal creator is infinitely intelligent, I think that all material forms are created by exercise of transcendent Supreme will according to the material desires of finite conditioned souls who are minute particles of consciousness ("spiritons") of the eternal Whole Spirit.
The most basic mechanism for universal creation is transcendental sound vibration: AUM ...
http://www.metanexus.net/conference2005/pdf/td_singh.pdf |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I would accept that the nonphysical spirit-soul inside the bacteria would automatically evolve to the next higher species (in terms of developed consciousness) that was particularly suited to conditions on Mars. |
Here's the deal. Hard radiation destroys DNA. Some bacteria have evolved the ability to repair their DNA. They don't have a lot of it. It's not that hard for them to repair the small amount of DNA they have.
But okay suppose higher life forms have evolved a really complex form of DNA repair so they can stand the radiation on Mars. And they can walk around on the surface of the planet. Well, umm, what do they eat? Do you see any evidence of plants? Trees? Shrubs? How do you have mega fauna and not flora? Are you aware of any place on Earth where there are higher forms of life that aren't surrounded by lower forms? |
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Rteacher
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Our kind of bodies wouldn't survive long there without special spacesuits, but there may be intelligent forms of life beyond our limited range of perception, perhaps with ethereal bodies or existing in other dimensions (or beneath the surface ...)
It's probably a safe bet that there's no life - as we know - it on Mars , but how much do we really know about the totality of existence? |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
Our kind of bodies wouldn't survive long there without special spacesuits, but there may be intelligent forms of life beyond our limited range of perception, perhaps with ethereal bodies or existing in other dimensions (or beneath the surface ...)
It's probably a safe bet that there's no life - as we know - it on Mars , but how much do we really know about the totality of existence? |
There could be an invisible blue baby dancing with an invisible tiger right behind you right now. Hey, whatever turns your crank and gets you through your next class. I personally set my watch a couple minutes slow. Illusions are sometimes nice. |
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Rteacher
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Krishna's planet is unfathomably much nicer than Mars ...
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mindmetoo
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Krishna's planet is unfathomably much nicer than Mars ...
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I bet I can invent a god with a better planet than your god's planet. |
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Rteacher
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You could imagine it, but whatever God dreams becomes reality ...
Here's a description of Krishna's abode (from an article on theological differences between Christianity and Vaishnavism):
The following summary description of Goloka Vrindavana may be found in Teachings of Lord Chaitanya (Bhaktivedanta, 1974:321):
...In Brahma-samhita the transcendental land of Vrindavana is described as being always spiritual. That spiritual land is populated by goddesses of fortune, who are known as gopis. These are all beloved of Krishna and Krishna is the only lover of all these gopis. The trees of that land are kalpa-vriksha, wish-fulfilling trees, and one can have anything he wants from them. The land is made of touchstone and water of nectar. In that land all speech is song, and all walking is dancing, and one's constant companion is the flute. Everything is self-luminous, just like the sun in this material world. The human form of life is meant for understanding this transcendental land of Vrindavana, and one who is fortunate should cultivate knowledge of Vrindavana and its residents. In that supreme abode are surabhi cows that overflood the land with milk. Since not even a moment there is misused, there is no past, present or future. An expansion of this Vrindavana, which is the supreme abode of Krishna, is also present on this earth, and superior devotees worship it as the supreme abode. [i.e., Gokula Vrindavana, the Vrindavana that is in India, the earthly location of many of Krishna's terrestrial pastimes].
http://www.iskcon.com/icj/4_2/4_2theofoot.html
This video animation is a devotee artist's conception of Srila Prabhupada's spreading the spiritual culture of Vrindavana, India to the western world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB1k6H0bX6w |
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