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maiden's iron
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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 Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:39 am Post subject: L.A.? |
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| If you come from a city just outside LA... aren't you going to say LA or <insert small city name here>? I know I'm not being snooty or trying to sound more "cosmopolitan"... |
Grew up in L.A. County but it wasn't as bad as it is now. Heck, it's probably one of the headquarters of wiggerdom. Who in their right mind would want to live in a smog infested, crime ridden, wigger loving city? L.A. is for the dogs. I'm even embarrassed to say that I grew up around that area. Northern California is 100 times better...normal people and a lot of clean air. Plus, it's not full of ubiquitous cookie cutter homes. If there's one thing that L.A. is good at, it's tearing up beautiful land to make more strip malls and homes. Funny how many Koreans think that L.A. is full of orange groves. One of the neighboring counties that was named Orange County because of its many orange groves many years ago, is gradually becoming another third world according to an L.A. Times article. The article even said that it is indestinguishable from L.A. How pathetic. Too many people and too much land development. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:56 am Post subject: Re: L.A.? |
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| L.A. is for the dogs. I'm even embarrassed to say that I grew up around that area. Northern California is 100 times better...normal people and a lot of clean air. Plus, it's not full of ubiquitous cookie cutter homes. If there's one thing that L.A. is good at, it's tearing up beautiful land to make more strip malls and homes. Funny how many Koreans think that L.A. is full of orange groves. One of the neighboring counties that was named Orange County because of its many orange groves many years ago, is gradually becoming another third world according to an L.A. Times article. The article even said that it is indestinguishable from L.A. How pathetic. Too many people and too much land development. |
Yeah, I don't like L.A. culture.. and the 'Californification' they call it when the developers bring the same concepts and ideas up to places like Seattle, Portland OR and all the rest. I do agree Northern California is 100 times better. I love SF and SD.. but LA almost totally and entirely because of the very predominant car culture, expressways, smog, strip malls and all the rest has made what once was one of the coolest places to live into one of the most undesireable.
San Diego is really cool though.. if LA use to be like that.. it would have been a great place to live.. SD is perfect size and beautiful climate.. just incredible. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Ah, Seoul bashing!
The best thing on the board (next to Korean-Men-bashing, Canadian-bashing, Fat-Western-Women-bashing etc.)
For me there is no comparison to Seoul, but at the same time I don't keep peering over the fence wondering what kind of grass the sheep in the other pastures are grazing on.
Everyone's got their own priorities- I probably would've taken a good job in some other part of Korea over a crappy job in Seoul, but I was never forced to make such a decision- I found a good job in Seoul and so had the best of both worlds. |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Most people in the West have never even heard of Seoul.
Do you Daejeonites hear that? You guys can rest easy now. |
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maiden's iron
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:43 pm Post subject: San Diego ok but.... |
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| San Diego like most of Southern California is also becoming crowded and filled with the never ending infestation of gangs and wannabe idiots with baggie clothes. I call it the homeless look. But San Diego had a serious problem with actual homelessness about seven years ago. I remember seeing them just about everywhere in downtown and the surrounding areas. Now it's hard to tell who are really homeless and who aren't. There are nice areas in San Diego County but I'd say in a few years it will become another giant, boring suburb. There's really no sense of history in S. CA. It's a plastic society with people running around trying to keep up with their neighbors. Very few live the American dream. Sounds a lot like some of the discussions people have here of Koreans. And if that wasn't enough, the ghetto mentality has strangely become appealing to folks who probably never even set foot in one. Not only has L.A. gone to the dogs but most of Southern California as well. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:15 am Post subject: yes |
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How about people who want to learn Korean? There are 3 or so dialects, I think. I am not 100% sure what places speak which dialect. If you are in Seoul, you are guaranteed to learn the Seoul dialect.
Personally I like Seoul but I would probably prefer a smaller place when I am older. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| I made the big mistake of going to a small Japanese city to teach. I was bored within 2 months. I left to go back to Korea (Seoul) after 3 months. If you are a city person, stick to the cities. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:31 am Post subject: Re: San Diego ok but.... |
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| But San Diego had a serious problem with actual homelessness about seven years ago. I remember seeing them just about everywhere in downtown and the surrounding areas. Now it's hard to tell who are really homeless and who aren't. |
Yes, I heard the same thing about San Diego.. exactly as you say about that time ago. Apparently they cleaned it up.. and its really cool downtown. I heard the entire downtown was just all just homeless and quite dangerous up until the recent past.
Actually thats what was killing me about living in San Francisco. Downtown I couldn't go more for 2 minutes without some guy asking me for money.. and usually aggressive. Felt like I was in a 3rd world country.. but worse as too many would seemingly misinterpret you and who-knows-what-could-happen where 3rd world countries they just take 'no' for an answer and walk away. I had serious homelessness-fatigue in SF. Apparently because of significant pro-homeless laws and support they are just gravitating there.
San Diego.. I don't know what it looked like before.. but apparently its cleaned up a lot. Downtown has 44 bars in a 7 block radius (advertised everywhere as a pro-tourism campaign)... and it feels like a slice of Manhattan. Many of the restaurants pour into the streets kind of 'Little Italy NYC' style or 'North Beach SF' style. Also tons of live music in that small radius and very well-patrolled by policement. If you get out of that7 block radius.. it gets kind of slummy and liquor store hanging-out homeless look again. Quite a contrast. The beaches in San Diego are amazing though.. and some amazing nightlife in Pacific Beach in particular. Actually having lived there and doing quite a few Tijuana runs.. I'd say San Diego was actually a lot more fun. Odd as I heard maybe even 7 years ago (about when the homeless ruled the streets) that San Diego was horrible for nightlife and everyone went to Tijuana.
Cleaning up homelessnes does amazing things for a city.. San Diego and Manhattan are great cases in point. I hope San Francisco can do something about theres as its real seedy and sketchy everywhere right now. |
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Dr. Buck
Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Land of the Morning Clam
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Seoul--what a shit hole, the armpit of Asia.
A nice place to go drinking and whoring for a weekend but other than that, just a scummy cement block cultural backwater.
Kangnam real estate bubble---based on the high number of hagwons? Hagwons? Driving a market? Hagwons? Just another loser wannabee mentality--lots of strivers in Seoul.
Seoul superiority complex is good for the Koreans, let them think it's the center of the universe, but if you're non-Korean and you buy into that peopn mentality, you're just another retard waygook that lost some standards along the way as you were feed lots of crap by the "HiSeoul" Korean National Tourism Organization. It' usually better to spit than to swallow in thoses cases. |
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William Beckerson
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| Even my mouth puckered at the bitterness of the previous post. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| William Beckerson wrote: |
| Even my mouth puckered at the bitterness of the previous post. |
bitter but true in many ways |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| I've lived in Seoul as well as a small town in central Korea. How small? Well, the entire year I saw three foreigners. That is the thing...in podunkville you don't have anyplace to really go to. You pretty much are married to your school and that is it. I usually went to Seoul every weekend because if I hadn't, I would most certainly have not survived there for a year. No way will I ever consider going back to the sticks...I've learned my lesson. For those people that say that the sticks is the "real" Korea...by all means, please go. But I would rather buy a bus ticket and experience the "real" Korea for a few hours than be roped into the place for one year. Try finding anything like Hongdae or Itaewon or Kangnam in the sticks..... |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: L.A.? |
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| If you come from a city just outside LA... aren't you going to say LA or <insert small city name here>? I know I'm not being snooty or trying to sound more "cosmopolitan"... |
Grew up in L.A. County but it wasn't as bad as it is now. Heck, it's probably one of the headquarters of wiggerdom. Who in their right mind would want to live in a smog infested, crime ridden, wigger loving city? L.A. is for the dogs. I'm even embarrassed to say that I grew up around that area. Northern California is 100 times better...normal people and a lot of clean air. Plus, it's not full of ubiquitous cookie cutter homes. If there's one thing that L.A. is good at, it's tearing up beautiful land to make more strip malls and homes. Funny how many Koreans think that L.A. is full of orange groves. One of the neighboring counties that was named Orange County because of its many orange groves many years ago, is gradually becoming another third world according to an L.A. Times article. The article even said that it is indestinguishable from L.A. How pathetic. Too many people and too much land development. |
LA does have some good points, namely a lot of karaoke bars, thin women and overall laid-back and friendly people (I grew up in the rather unfriendly East Coast). But yeah, I have to agree that LA ain't a paradise. Oftentimes, I see Koreans living in ghetto and slummy K-town in downtown LA whose lives are actually worse than they would be back in Korea. Of course, I see even more Mexicans than anyone else, and therein lies a large part of the problem. |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course, I see even more Mexicans than anyone else, and therein lies a large part of the problem. |
I now believe that a society cannot function when cultures are mixed. It took me a while to realise this but as usual experience has been my guide. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| I go to Seoul on a bi-monthly basis. Sure its good but it is so crowded. Couldn't hack it in the long-run and I like the semi-countryside. I don't think foreigners have any bias on being better than anyone else depending on where they live. Aren't we all one big happy family??? |
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