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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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 Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 6:54 pm Post subject: Andie, you're a retard and THAT is true |
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| Andie wrote: |
Funny
Is that a (before/after) BJ look on your pic?
Andie |
Funny.
Your PM said you were on your way to getting a PHD-do you know a good fence?
SMRT
SMRT
Princess, Andie comes across as some kind of high intelligence guy.
HTH |
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Coffeecup
Joined: 30 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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The Man said:
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| Princess, Andie comes across as some kind of high intelligence guy. |
What do you mean? I ask because in at least 2 different settings that sentence could have 2 diff meanings. (intelligence = brains, or secretive). |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Andie is high IQ man. |
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Sweet Zombie Jesus
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't the MOJ verify the degrees sent to them? If so, well there's no problem they'll just trash his fake degree and tell him to get lost. 
Why doesn't he go and get a real degree instead childishly trying to fake his way into job where a degree is one of the requirements. I guess he's the kind of person who would go for a ambulence driver job without a drivers license, or try to enter the childcare profession without the reguired qualifications or with a criminal record... Foolish.  |
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Starperson
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Gord.
Is 'likelihood' really spelt with a 'y'?
Likelyhood.
Likelihood.
Which one?
Aha! Gotcha!  |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Andie, how much did you end up paying for your degree? |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I think Gord scared Andie away. Sigh. Another Act Of Gord. |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Andie if you talk the way you spell, you will not get hired anywhere. There are at least 10 errors in your post. Now anyone can make a mistake or two, but 10? Is English your first language? And yes, if you come here with a bogus degree, and get caught, do not expect any sympathy. Bogus degree=pathetic loser. Harsh but true. The only reason a person would buy a bogus degree to teach in Korea is for the cash. If you are teaching, students should be your first priority, not money. |
i'm not necessarily sure i agree with this. (and i apologise to all of you grammar gods out there for my failure to capitalise my letters, or for any other mistakes that i can't really be bothered to worry about on an internet discussion forum.) i think a large motivating factor for many of us working in korea, dare i say most of us working in korea, is cash. and even if that is one's primary motivation, it doesn't necessarily make that person a lousy teacher. why would you come to korea to teach if not motivated by easy money? more often than not, when getting into the kiddie hakwon buisness, you're going to be swimming in unprofessionalism from both employer and employee. the students (substitute an appropriate word for 'suffer' here, as i don't think most of the students, nor their parents, give a damn as long as the kids are being entertained) for it. why wouldn't you opt for a place to teach that would be more culturally rewarding to you, and where you'd have heaps better chances of reaching students effectively, than korea, if not for the money and the ease with which one can attain a job? i'd like to say that the students were my first priority, but if my hakwon stopped paying me, i'd stop teaching. how many of you out there can honestly say otherwise? even btm, one of the rebuking posters in this thread, said "But when it means worse working conditions and money out of your pocket, you've got to draw the line." notice he didn't say "But when it means cheating the children of Korea out of their education, you've got to draw the line." no offense meant to you, btm. i'm sure you do your best as a teacher, as do i. i can't say as much for andie, because i don't know him (okay, i don't know btm either) but i'm not going to write him off because he's motivated by money and because he didn't put a period at the end of his sentences on an internet post. do any of you honestly believe that andie doesn't know that a sentence is supposed to end with some sort of punctuation? i think he does know this, and would teach this to his students, just as when i'm teaching, i use capital letters.
that said, the argument has been raised before on this forum (probably on this very thread) of whether or not the paper qualifications required by the korean government make a person a more professional or qualified teacher. i believe that a person can be as effective a kiddie hakwon teacher with or without a university education. in more demanding professions, even in korea, even within the more professional end of the esl industry, i can understand where someone who has been properly educated would far out-perform someone who has not. but when you're forced to spend three months teaching kids how to spit out a script full of sentences that they don't know the meanings of (because you're not allowed to waste time teaching it to them) in order to put on a presentation for their parents in order to dupe them into believing that their children are so advanced in the englishy language, i don't know where you think your honestly earned BA in psychology is going to come into play.
i don't know whether andie is qualified to teach here or not, and i won't be shedding any tears if he gets deported. but i'm not about to judge him for coming over here with a bogus degree, or for lousy grammar on an internet forum. and i'm not going to pretend to be the selfless patron saint of korean education because i got a degree which, for the amount of effort i put into my university performance, i probably didn't deserve. i've encouraged my brother to buy a degree and get on a plane to korea, because i had such a great couple of years there. he declined for lack of interest. to each his own. |
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nocturno culto
Joined: 27 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2003 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I bought a degree now people like me and talk to me at MENSA meetings. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Andie, what do you think of morally bankrupt jackasses who think nothing about playing the system and defaulting on studnet loans-we're not talking about economic hardship, we are talking about thieving lawyers and the like. |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| Trust me, Andie is lurking. Such is his fate. |
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Zed
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| buddy bradley wrote: |
| Trust me, Andie is lurking. Such is his fate. |
You don't think he went on to bigger and better things? I hear he's got a great job as a mod on Dave's ESL |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| You don't think he went on to bigger and better things? I hear he's got a great job as a mod on Dave's ESL |
Now that was just cruel. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| endofthewor1d wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
Andie if you talk the way you spell, you will not get hired anywhere. There are at least 10 errors in your post. Now anyone can make a mistake or two, but 10? Is English your first language? And yes, if you come here with a bogus degree, and get caught, do not expect any sympathy. Bogus degree=pathetic loser. Harsh but true. The only reason a person would buy a bogus degree to teach in Korea is for the cash. If you are teaching, students should be your first priority, not money. |
i'm not necessarily sure i agree with this. (and i apologise to all of you grammar gods out there for my failure to capitalise my letters, or for any other mistakes that i can't really be bothered to worry about on an internet discussion forum.) i think a large motivating factor for many of us working in korea, dare i say most of us working in korea, is cash. and even if that is one's primary motivation, it doesn't necessarily make that person a lousy teacher. why would you come to korea to teach if not motivated by easy money? more often than not, when getting into the kiddie hakwon buisness, you're going to be swimming in unprofessionalism from both employer and employee. the students (substitute an appropriate word for 'suffer' here, as i don't think most of the students, nor their parents, give a damn as long as the kids are being entertained) for it. why wouldn't you opt for a place to teach that would be more culturally rewarding to you, and where you'd have heaps better chances of reaching students effectively, than korea, if not for the money and the ease with which one can attain a job? i'd like to say that the students were my first priority, but if my hakwon stopped paying me, i'd stop teaching. how many of you out there can honestly say otherwise? even btm, one of the rebuking posters in this thread, said "But when it means worse working conditions and money out of your pocket, you've got to draw the line." notice he didn't say "But when it means cheating the children of Korea out of their education, you've got to draw the line." no offense meant to you, btm. i'm sure you do your best as a teacher, as do i. i can't say as much for andie, because i don't know him (okay, i don't know btm either) but i'm not going to write him off because he's motivated by money and because he didn't put a period at the end of his sentences on an internet post. do any of you honestly believe that andie doesn't know that a sentence is supposed to end with some sort of punctuation? i think he does know this, and would teach this to his students, just as when i'm teaching, i use capital letters.
that said, the argument has been raised before on this forum (probably on this very thread) of whether or not the paper qualifications required by the korean government make a person a more professional or qualified teacher. i believe that a person can be as effective a kiddie hakwon teacher with or without a university education. in more demanding professions, even in korea, even within the more professional end of the esl industry, i can understand where someone who has been properly educated would far out-perform someone who has not. but when you're forced to spend three months teaching kids how to spit out a script full of sentences that they don't know the meanings of (because you're not allowed to waste time teaching it to them) in order to put on a presentation for their parents in order to dupe them into believing that their children are so advanced in the englishy language, i don't know where you think your honestly earned BA in psychology is going to come into play.
i don't know whether andie is qualified to teach here or not, and i won't be shedding any tears if he gets deported. but i'm not about to judge him for coming over here with a bogus degree, or for lousy grammar on an internet forum. and i'm not going to pretend to be the selfless patron saint of korean education because i got a degree which, for the amount of effort i put into my university performance, i probably didn't deserve. i've encouraged my brother to buy a degree and get on a plane to korea, because i had such a great couple of years there. he declined for lack of interest. to each his own. |
Welcome back Andie! |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 11:59 am Post subject: |
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Jesus, aren't people allowed to hold differing opinions in here?
Personally, I think Andie's doing a dodgy, but it may not make him any better or worse at the actual JOB of teaching English in Korea (or anywhere else). So good luck to him if he can pull it off! Just so long as he's comfortable knowing that he's ripping off himself, as well as Korean Immigration, his potential director, and students. Karma works man, one way or another it'll come back to you.
Andie, if you can teach elsewhere without hassle why bother coming to Korea? If it's just down to the filthy lucre then there's always alternative career options. Maybe? Maybe not. I'm curious to know.
Anyway mate I have NO clue as to your professionalism. You may well be the world's best teacher who is just lacking an appropriate piece of paper.
But, advertising the fact? Man, that's just not smart.
Oh and Man Known As..... we get it already. 
Cheers people!! |
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