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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: Is McCain too old? |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| The senile old bastard was seventy when he became president in 1981. Maybe McCain can do as good of a job as Reagan did at being a neo-con spokesman. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:36 am Post subject: |
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I voted yes, but that's because everything about him is old. He's old, his supporters are really old, his campaign style is old, his worldview is old. He spent a few months boning up on the economy and still doesn't know simple facts like what the president's Working Group on Financial Markets is and does, so his brain is old too. He's not just old from having lived 71 years.
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| 70 is not that old anymore. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Ron Paul
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onald Ernest "Ron" Paul (born August 20, 1935) is a Republican United States Congressman from Lake Jackson, Texas, a physician, and a 2008 U.S. presidential candidate. Originally from the Pittsburgh suburb of Green Tree, Pennsylvania, he studied at Duke University School of Medicine, and after his 1961 graduation and a residency in obstetrics and gynecology, he became a U.S. Air Force flight surgeon, serving outside the Vietnam War zone. He later entered politics and has represented Texas districts in the U.S. House of Representatives (1976�1977, 1979�1985, and 1997�present). He entered the 1988 presidential election running as the Libertarian nominee while remaining a registered Republican and placed a distant third. |
John McCain
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John Sidney McCain III (born August 29, 1936) is the senior United States Senator from Arizona and a candidate for the Republican Party nomination in the 2008 presidential election.
Both McCain's grandfather and father were Admirals in the United States Navy. McCain also attended the United States Naval Academy and finished near the bottom of his graduating class in 1958. McCain became a naval aviator flying attack aircraft from carriers. Participating in the Vietnam War, he narrowly escaped death during the 1967 Forrestal fire. On his 23rd bombing mission over North Vietnam later in 1967, he was shot down and badly injured. He endured five and a half years as a prisoner of war, including periods of torture, before he was released following the Paris Peace Accords in 1973.
Retiring from the Navy in 1981 and moving t |
Isn't it funny that two Ron Paul supporters are now all of sudden complaining that McCain is too old.
John McCain is younger than Ron Paul!
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�adjective
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dis�in�gen�u�ous (dĭs'ĭn-jěn'yōō-əs) Pronunciation Key
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1. Not straightforward or candid; insincere or calculating: "an ambitious, disingenuous, philistine, and hypocritical operator, who ... exemplified ... the most disagreeable traits of his time" (David Cannadine).
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| 70 is not that old anymore. |
No, not at all if you age well. I'm hoping this is what I'll look like after I reach 80.
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:29 am Post subject: |
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No.
Why so committed to attack and discredit the next President of the United States on personal grounds?
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| John McCain is younger than Ron Paul! |
Ha! ROFL. And why, TigerBeer, Twiggy, and Mithridates, have you never asked this about Ron Paul? Hint: you were not seeking pretexts to use against him... 
Inquiring minds want to know. So, then. Gentlemen: is age an issue? Is McCain too old? Please clarify your position on these principled questions. Then please do let us know whether you continue to support the rEVULsion... |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| ron paul isn't going to be president. but he is working for an ideological shift. mccain isn't going to be president either, but he's happy being the new bob dole- the old timer who stuck around and beleives he merits the shot (only to lose). |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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I voted a reluctant 'yes'. I wanted to vote: Yes, maybe...
It depends on his health and other factors. We know his mom is 95. But what about his father? Are there any long-term effects of having been held as a POW? Semi-starvation cannot be good for a person's longevity, I would think.
In my opinion, age should be one factor in considering a candidate, but it should not be the only factor. I think I mentioned on another thread that, for me, around the age of 65, I begin to add that consideration to my feelings about a candidate's qualifications.
On one of the threads there is an article where someone says a friend has spent some time interviewing McCain in person and said that McCain is 'frail' but it doesn't show on TV. I don't know if that is an accurate and fair statement, but I'm concerned about it and would like to know if it's true or just a smear attack.
I thought Cheyney was irresponsible and selfish for running with his heart condition. It hasn't turned out to be a problem, but I just feel that if there is a known existing condition that could prevent a person from finishing a term, that person should withdraw. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
I voted yes, but that's because everything about him is old. He's old, his supporters are really old, his campaign style is old, his worldview is old. He spent a few months boning up on the economy and still doesn't know simple facts like what the president's Working Group on Financial Markets is and does, so his brain is old too. He's not just old from having lived 71 years.
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Old has many meanings, and the old you seem to use means 'old-fashioned.'
Nobody is old in spirit who can sustain a continued Presidential campaign. McCain has a great deal of war debilitations which make him look older in person, much like Bob Dole has. McCain's lacking of photogenicity may well hurt him, but I would hate to see any shallow mocking of McCain resembling the witless SNL sketches on Bob Dole. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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I voted yes, but that's because everything about him is old. He's old, his supporters are really old, his campaign style is old, his worldview is old. He spent a few months boning up on the economy and still doesn't know simple facts like what the president's Working Group on Financial Markets is and does, so his brain is old too. He's not just old from having lived 71 years.
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Old has many meanings, and the old you seem to use means 'old-fashioned.'
Nobody is old in spirit who can sustain a continued Presidential campaign. |
I think McCain's young enough to run for president, not young enough to be president on the platform he's running on. National security, protect the country, definitely going to be more wars (he said that himself a few days ago), etc. Ron Paul is running as a president that would reduce the size of government and give a huge part of the areas the federal government is in charge of now to the states for other people to run, so in reality they're not running for the same thing.
Here's the relative size of the candidates' spending proposals, so each one of them would be responsible for running a government of that size were they to become president:
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Nobody is old in spirit who can sustain a continued Presidential campaign. |
Neither McCain nor Bob Dole were "too old" for this reason exactly. It should come down to practical tests like these: if she or he can run for president, run a campaign, debate the other candidates, win support, and stay in the thing through the convention, etc., what does this person's biological age have to do with anything? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| mithridates wrote: |
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I voted yes, but that's because everything about him is old. He's old, his supporters are really old, his campaign style is old, his worldview is old. He spent a few months boning up on the economy and still doesn't know simple facts like what the president's Working Group on Financial Markets is and does, so his brain is old too. He's not just old from having lived 71 years.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oUZwL9GPcNw |
Old has many meanings, and the old you seem to use means 'old-fashioned.'
Nobody is old in spirit who can sustain a continued Presidential campaign. |
I think McCain's young enough to run for president, not young enough to be president on the platform he's running on. National security, protect the country, definitely going to be more wars (he said that himself a few days ago), etc. Ron Paul is running as a president that would reduce the size of government and give a huge part of the areas the federal government is in charge of now to the states for other people to run, so in reality they're not running for the same thing.
Here's the relative size of the candidates' spending proposals, so each one of them would be responsible for running a government of that size were they to become president:
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