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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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IncognitoHFX wrote: |
Everyone has been telling me to buy a copy of Survival Korean! since I've been in country, but in all honesty after having been to half a dozen book stores, it doesn't exist on Korean shelves and you'll have to order it online.
I heard it was a great primer. I think I've exceeded it's level by now though. |
If you haven't studied any other books or whatever, I highly doubt you've learned anywhere near beyond what it has to offer.
Don't let the title fool you. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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Bump - this really should be made a sticky. |
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moff12
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: |
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I was in the Jongno Kyobo this afternoon, they definitely have Survival Korean in stock along with many other titles that look possibly better.
Such as a writing, reading, and listening, three book series.
Another good online link is:
http://lei.snu.ac.kr/english/pages/SD00023_00.jsp
I signed up last night for the Korea Cultural Foundation free classes, has anybody tried these? |
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inukshuk
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Location: korea
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: korean people |
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I would say the 50 million Korean people who are willing to teach you Korean in exchange for conversation practice is the best way. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:48 am Post subject: |
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As much as I enjoy talking to Koreans, I find it difficult and frustrating at times.
A: They can't understand me, even though I know I'm saying the right phrase. (I can't believe my pronunciation is that far off)
B: They assume that I understand way more than I do and they go rattling off at 100 miles an hour....with me left in the dust back at the 5 second mark.
C: They feel that I know almost nothing and then they proceed to explain things that I already know (and have known for a long time).
D: They simply refuse to speak Korean to me and speak to me in English.
And with regard to teachers, I've had some real doozies. I can't count the number of times that well meaning teachers confuse and frustrate the hell out of me by using far too difficult vocabulary, speaking too fast, and or assuming I should know what they are talking about. Quite often when I ask for an explanation, I either can't get one or I get one that makes no sense. *=*
Finding someone who knows how to teach is a real challenge, as I'm sure it must be for Koreans learning English. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: korean people |
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inukshuk wrote: |
I would say the 50 million Korean people who are willing to teach you Korean in exchange for conversation practice is the best way. |
Indeed, but that doesn't make have a book unnecessary. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: korean people |
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inukshuk wrote: |
I would say the 50 million Korean people who are willing to teach you Korean in exchange for conversation practice is the best way. |
The problem with this idea is the same one that hogwans have. Just because someone is a native speaker doesn't mean they know how to teach. In fact, in my experience very few Koreans know how to effectively teach Korean. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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IncognitoHFX wrote: |
I've been there. Got the ol' "opsoyo".
I even double checked with my k-girlfriend and she couldn't find it. |
It's there under romantic fiction right between Rainbow Six by Tom Clancy and a Bill Gates Biography. |
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Chris Kwon

Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Location: North Korea
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: korean people |
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some waygug-in wrote: |
inukshuk wrote: |
I would say the 50 million Korean people who are willing to teach you Korean in exchange for conversation practice is the best way. |
The problem with this idea is the same one that hogwans have. Just because someone is a native speaker doesn't mean they know how to teach. In fact, in my experience very few Koreans know how to effectively teach Korean. |
This is very true. There's some things native speakers know whats wrong, but can't really explain why it's wrong or the exact rule(s). |
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trubadour
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have a copy each of Survival Korean and the second one, which is really useful for grammar and vocabulary and is very accessible, too.
I have used them intermittently (am very lazy) and speak better Korean than most people I've met in the last two years. I know thats not exactly saying much, but I've tried other books and these are really useful. They work especially well as a pair.
The 'survival' apsect of the title applies to their approachability and usefulness more than any kind of overly elementary basic level. They can also be approached in numerous ways. I simply learned the dialogues and have glanced at the bit on the past tense and some other basic rules. This method has produced a really good effort for reward ratio, which is essential for learning Korean.
Their absence from some of the shops may have been due to me constantly replacing my lost copies...
As it happens, I'm off out of the country soon so am willing to send my good-as-new copies to a good home. See the buy/sell/trade forum, or PM me for more info. |
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cunning_stunt

Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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I just got the pimsler off a torrent site . By all acounts it's way too formal and not practical . I'm walking around talking like a hyper-formal posh korean ponce , but it's an easy way to pick up the basics and it does the trick . |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:00 am Post subject: |
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moff12 wrote: |
I was in the Jongno Kyobo this afternoon, they definitely have Survival Korean in stock along with many other titles that look possibly better.
Such as a writing, reading, and listening, three book series.
Another good online link is:
http://lei.snu.ac.kr/english/pages/SD00023_00.jsp
I signed up last night for the Korea Cultural Foundation free classes, has anybody tried these? |
Another vote for Survival Korean here. Also, it covers a lot of ground, and it's unlikely for anyone to have "exceeded it's level" very quickly. I also have seen it at the various Kyobo Bookstores everytime I've been there.
The free classes at the Korean Cultural Foundation are great. An excellent way to meet people and get conversation practice. My only complaint is that they've changed from 12 week courses to 1 month courses. I no longer attend as I did Intermediate 2 and 3 twice each, intermediate 4 is on Wednesdays at 4pm and the advanced class is way beyond me. They need more levels between intermediate (which is more like upper beginner) and advanced (which seems to be high level fluency). But it's free so can't really complain. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:19 am Post subject: |
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[quote="IncognitoHFX"]
I've been there. Got the ol' "opsoyo".
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Wow, you really are an old-timer, huh? How did you do that? I mean, you practically knew everything before you had even been here, but now that you are here for a few months it's like you really do know everything.
I am fucking amazed. How do you do it? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: |
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How are the tutors there?
Those in the Busan volunteer center range from sort of OK to pretty awful, but then again, the classes are free.
Every Saturday (holidays excluded) from 11:00 - 1:00, 10th floor - Busan water authority building in Yangjeong. |
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