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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:18 pm    Post subject: Obama's Foreign Policy... Reply with quote

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Obama has taken on Zbigniew Brzezinski as his chief foreign policy advisor.


IGTG posted this in the context of a sensationalist and unreliable newsstory on another thread.

I find it an interesting claim, however. It would up Obama's stock in my book. Anyone know anything about this development?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to a search I just did, David Ignatius argued in March 2007 that Obama should make ZB his foreign-policy adviser. And ZB endorsed Obama in August 2007.

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Barack Obama, combating the perception that he is too young and inexperienced to handle a dangerous world, got a boost yesterday from a paragon of foreign policy eminence, Zbigniew Brzezinski. The former national security adviser announced on Bloomberg Television's "Political Capital With Al Hunt" that he is supporting the junior senator from Illinois for president.


I can't find anything more recent saying that ZB has actually decided to become Obama's foreign policy adviser.

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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found this. Dated by still a useful starting point. Brzezinski has backed Obama for a while. But has he truly become his chief foreign-affairs advisor...?

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A list of the national security and foreign policy advisers to the leading presidential candidates from both parties.

DEMOCRATS

Hillary Clinton

Madeleine K. Albright, President Clinton�s secretary of state and now chairperson of the National Democratic Institute, foreign policy adviser

Samuel R. Berger, President Clinton�s national security adviser and now a principal at business consultancy Stonebridge, foreign policy adviser

Lt. Gen. Daniel William Christman, a former West Point superintendent and now senior vice president for international affairs at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, foreign policy adviser

Gen. Wesley K. Clark, President Clinton�s Kosovo commander and now a Democratic fundraiser, endorsed Sen. Clinton Sept. 15

John H. Dalton, President Clinton�s Navy secretary and now president of the Financial Services Roundtable�s Housing Policy Council, veterans and military retirees for Hillary

Lee Feinstein, a deputy in President Clinton�s State Department, national security coordinator

Leslie H. Gelb; president emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations, a former New York Times correspondent and a former State and Defense Department official, informal adviser

Richard C. Holbrooke, President Clinton�s UN ambassador and broker of the Dayton Peace Accords (and now a Washington Post columnist), foreign policy adviser

Martin S. Indyk, President Clinton�s ambassador to Israel and now director of Brookings�s Saban Center for Middle East Policy, foreign policy adviser

Gen. John M. ("Jack") Keane, a former Army vice chief of staff who co-crafted the Iraq "surge" and is now a military analyst (sometimes for ABC news), military issues adviser

Lt. Gen. Claudia J. Kennedy, former deputy chief of staff for intelligence, veterans and military retirees for Hillary

Lt. Gen. Donald L. Kerrick, President Clinton�s deputy national security adviser, organizes meetings of retired officers

Col. Andrew F. Krepinevich, president of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, briefed Hillary Clinton as well as Sen. John McCain and Gov. Bill Richardson

Vali Nasr, Naval Postgraduate School professor, Middle East adviser

Michael O'Hanlon, Brookings senior fellow and former Congressional Budget Office defense and foreign policy analyst, supporter

Rep. (and retired Vice Adm.) Joseph Sestak, veterans and military retirees for Hillary

Andrew Shapiro, Sen. Clinton�s Senate foreign policy staffer

Jeffrey H. Smith, former CIA general counsel and now a partner leading the public policy and government contracts group of law firm Arnold & Porter, national security adviser

Strobe Talbott, Brookings president, informal adviser

Togo D. West, President Clinton�s secretary for veterans affairs and former secretary of the Army, veterans and military retirees for Hillary

Former Amb. Joseph C. Wilson IV, the half of the Plamegate couple who criticized the administration for using questionable evidence to promote the Iraq war, endorsed Sen. Clinton July 16

Barack Obama

Former Amb. Jeffrey Bader, President Clinton�s National Security Council Asia specialist and now head of Brookings�s China center, national security adviser

Mark Brzezinski, President Clinton�s National Security Council Southeast Europe specialist and now a partner at law firm McGuireWoods, national security adviser

Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter�s national security adviser and now a Center for Strategic and International Studies counselor and trustee and frequent guest on PBS�s NewsHour with Jim Lehrer, foreign policy adviser

Richard A. Clarke, President Clinton and President George W. Bush�s counterterrorism czar and now head of Good Harbor Consulting and an ABC News contributor, sometimes Obama adviser

Gregory B. Craig, State Department director of policy planning under President Clinton and now a partner at law firm Williams & Connolly, foreign policy adviser

Roger W. Cressey, former National Security Council counterterrorism staffer and now Good Harbor Consulting president and NBC News consultant, has advised Obama but says not exclusive

Ivo H. Daalder, National Security Council director for European affairs during President Clinton�s administration and now a Brookings senior fellow, foreign policy adviser

Richard Danzig, President Clinton�s Navy secretary and now a Center for Strategic and International Analysis fellow, national security adviser

Philip H. Gordon, President Clinton�s National Security Council staffer for Europe and now a Brookings senior fellow, national security adviser

Maj. Gen. J. (Jonathan) Scott Gration, a 32-year Air Force veteran and now CEO of Africa anti-poverty effort Millennium Villages, national security adviser and surrogate

Lawrence J. Korb, assistant secretary of defense from 1981-1985 and now a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, informal foreign policy adviser

W. Anthony Lake, President Clinton�s national security adviser and now a professor at Georgetown�s school of foreign service, foreign policy adviser

James M. Ludes, former defense and foreign policy adviser to Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., and now executive director of the American Security Project, national security adviser

Robert Malley, President Clinton�s Middle East envoy and now International Crisis Group�s Middle East and North Africa program director, national security adviser

Gen. Merrill A. ("Tony") McPeak, former Air Force chief of staff and now a business consultant, national security adviser

Denis McDonough, Center for American Progress senior fellow and former policy adviser to then-Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle, foreign policy coordinator

Samantha Power, Harvard-based human rights scholar and Pulitzer Prize winning writer, foreign policy adviser

Susan E. Rice, President Clinton�s Africa specialist at the State Department and National Security Council and now a Brookings senior fellow, foreign policy adviser

Bruce O. Riedel, former CIA officer and National Security Council staffer for Near East and Asian affairs and now a Brookings senior fellow, national security adviser

Dennis B. Ross, President Clinton�s Middle East negotiator and now a Washington Institute for Near East Policy fellow, Middle East adviser

Sarah Sewall, deputy assistant secretary of defense for peacekeeping and humanitarian assistance during President Clinton�s administration and now director of Harvard�s Carr Center for Human Rights Policy, national security adviser

Daniel B. Shapiro, National Security Council director for legislative affairs during President Clinton�s administration and now a lobbyist with Timmons & Company, Middle East adviser

Mona Sutphen, former aide to President Clinton�s National Security adviser Samuel R. Berger and to United Nations ambassador Bill Richardson and now managing director of business consultancy Stonebridge, national security adviser


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But has he truly become his chief foreign-affairs advisor...?


Who knows. He's definitely higher ranking than all but a couple of others on the list, and certainly the most well-known. I'm guessing that his advice would be worth a bit more, in terms of p.r. promoting the idea that Obama listens to smart and powerful people, then anyone else's. Which means you'd have to conclude that there would be a lot of fanfare if ZB really had taken on that role.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this point the consequences of such a relationship would say much about: Obama's platform; how the hypothetical W. Bush-Obama transition would go in places like Homeland Security, State, and CIA; how Obama's hypothetical cabinet and esp. his NSC and staff would look.

One possible answer: Realistic and somewhat hawkish, although still against the Iraqi War. Now his comments on possibly moving the war into Pakistan, under certain conditions, makes more sense to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One possible answer: Realistic and somewhat hawkish, although still against the Iraqi War.


And from what I've heard about ZB, generally anti-Russian(as opposed to anti-Communist.)
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is Polish, man.

In any case, full of Idealism, but backed by Realists and hawks on foreign policy. Perhaps the JFK comparisons are not so far off base after all...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty much the