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hagwonnewbie
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia
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 Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: Horse fighting |
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| My brother said he just saw some video of Horse fighting in South Korea. He said they were fighting horses just like people fight dogs or chickens against each other. I was wondering if anybody else had any info on this. |
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swetepete
Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| That's appalling. I hope it ain't true...I'd rather see a horse fighting an unarmed person. That'd be way cooler cause the horse would win for sure, unless it was up against a drunken Conan or something. |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Didn't you guys see the picture of the two horses fighting in the photo contest? |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Utterly barbaric. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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| It was on Arirang TV, on a program that was showcasing the charms of Cheju Island. It really shows you how out-of-touch the people of Arirang are with their supposed audience (non-Koreans). |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: |
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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w0Q-JS9RME |
Enlightening. |
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JAZZYJJJ
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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Dunno.
What I saw in the Youtube vid happens in the wild (stallions fighting) and it is hardly as rigged as cock-fighting, or even bull-fighting, in the sense the animals aren't deliberately wounded or handicapped.
The poking of the stallion when it was in the truck/float troubles me the most - akin to flicking a fishtank. And overall, I find this indicative of a lot of people's attitude towards animals over here. Causing it unnnecessary distress. That does bug me.
Anyways, the horses (ponies actually) are acting naturally. But I disagree with the peasant-like attitudes of the owners.
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Horse Fighting: Fact Sheet
What is horse fighting?
Horses are herd animals, and in natural circumstances will not only engage in battle for leadership of their group, but also for mating purposes. In this environment, Stallions do not fight to the death, but until one of them backs down or flees. This is nature's way of ensuring that the strongest bloodlines are responsible for the procreation of their kind. Horse fighting, or horse to horse combat, is a barbaric spectator sport where these circumstances are simulated in order to make two stallions, or male horses, fight each other in a controlled environment. Events are conducted before wildly cheering crowds who are stimulated by the blood, gore, fury and intensity of the fighting.
Where does horse fighting take place?
Horse fighting has now been outlawed almost worldwide. It still thrives, however, in countries like the Philippines, Indonesia, China and South Korea. Brutal and inhumane, these spectacles can be anything from featured events in annual fiestas and thanksgiving festivals to scrappy events put together by locals for the purposes of an afternoon's gambling and entertainment, or to honor a special guest. Horse fighting takes place in city stadiums or abandoned playing fields in remote villages and provinces. In more highly populated areas they may also be conducted at a local racetrack.
Where do the horses come from?
Some horses are bred specifically for horse to horse combat. However, some are acquired by promoters for their size and sturdiness and trained for fighting.
How do they make the horses fight?
To start the competition, two Stallions are brought in. A mare in heat is then presented to them and removed. Horses who do not immediately engage in a battle for her are whipped into a fury or gunshots fired to incite them through fear.
As the Stallions rise in combat, they bite, kick and strike each other with their hooves, inflicting serious wounds and injuries until one of them either succumbs, flees or is killed. The Stallion left standing is declared the winner.
Aside from the physical pain and wounds incurred by the Stallions, the mares are also subjected to animal cruelty, as they are injected with hormones to keep them in heat for the prolonged periods.
How long do horse fights last?
In festivals, a series of pairs are brought in to fight. The winners of these bouts then fight each other, until all are eliminated but the final two. In the deciding contest, the ultimate winner is declared the champion who is decorated with a special blanket and cheered by the crowd. It is considered a great honor to own the winning horse.
In provincial horse fights, stallions compete in a series of one-off matches. Competing horses are often ill-matched which results in gruesome injuries and even death to the weaker opponent.
What happens to the horses that lose?
Depending on the owner or promoter, horses who are not mortally wounded or suffer superficial wounds may be treated for future fights. These horses, however, are considered weak and their lives spared for more sinister purposes. In their next bout, they will be pitted against a superior opponent and will most likely be maimed or killed. In doing so, promoters ensure that spectators get the blood and gore they demand and expect.
For horses who are not treated for their injuries, this means their careers as equine gladiators are over, and they are either shot or slaughtered. It has been reported by visitors that in the remote areas of Asian countries, some of the horses are butchered at horse fighting events, and a cookout held for the spectators.
Why does horse fighting still go on?
Countries staging horse fights defend it as a cultural tradition that has gone on for hundreds of years, and resist any attempts to ban it. While tradition has long been used to legitimize horse fighting, money and gambling appears to be the real reason for its continued existence. |
http://www.fund4horses.org/info.php?id=266
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| Smee wrote: |
| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w0Q-JS9RME |
I really look down very low on the people in that video. They seem to have no shame. These people are the filth of the earth - in my eyes that is. I would respect horse manure before I would respect those people. At least horse manure has a useful purpose. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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I am not condoning the horse fighting (which is disgusting) but they did seem to focus on the fact that they eat horse meat. Like the line "where they breed them race them and eat them" So it is okay to feed horses to your pets but not eat them yourselves.
Horse is a (relatively) common meat in France. I even saw horse (for human consumption) at my local supermart in NZ two days ago.
If an animal is looked after and slaughtered in a humane method whats the problem[/b] |
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Chillin' Villain
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Goo Row
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Random Youtube User wrote: |
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Snickered a bit. Sorry, horseys.
(It really does suck, though.) |
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aldershot
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| a little off-topic, but the fact the mongols brought the horses to jeju has been wiped from korean history books. ask any of your older students; they have no idea how the horses got there. |
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Craven Moorehead
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Isn't horseflesh a mite pricey and especially scarce in this wildlife devoid cesspool of a country? |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Can anyone recommend a good restaurant for horsemeat in Seoul? |
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