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cunning_stunt
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| You are clearly insane. Iraq's attack on Kuwait was manufactured by the US? America allowed Pearl Harbor to happen? I see you forgot the basic request I made of you to not resort to WONJCT. |
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cunning_stunt
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| You are clearly insane. Iraq's attack on Kuwait was manufactured by the US? America allowed Pearl Harbor to happen? I see you forgot the basic request I made of you to not resort to WONJCT. |
Where in the video did it say that ? You keeping seeing things in the world not consistant with reality .....for example you keeping seeing this in my posts that aren't there ....I think it's your sanity in question here .
I don't mind shouting down a silly conspiracy theorist . But false flag event are well documented and researched . What is so controversial about the idea that a country would use propoganda ? You must live in a special america I don't know about where the media and the government would never resort to manipulating public opion . One with a gumdrop forest and a rainbow river .
Do you propose this doesn't happen ? Weapons of mass destruction in iraq ? Weapons programs in Iran ? Don't those two events (which nobody sane questions are propoganda) alone demonstrate the states is willing to go to great deals to sell wars with lies ? You trust these people ? |
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ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="CentralCali"][quote="ernie"]how could the US fight a war to 'help south koreans' when the country didn't even exist at the time?[/quote]
Date of establishment of the Republic of Korea: August 15, 1948.
Date of establishment of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea: September 9, 1948.
Date of beginning of hostilities in the Korean War: June 25, 1950.
Got any other ignorance I can fight for you? The rest of your posting is just more blather.[/quote]
so in just 2 years the people south of the 38th parallel became worth dying for and those in north became the enemy? if you think the US or the USSR (or any other country) acts out of altruism, you're seriously delusional... |
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cunning_stunt
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| so in just 2 years the people south of the 38th parallel became worth dying for and those in north became the enemy? if you think the US or the USSR (or any other country) acts out of altruism, you're seriously delusional... |
Of course he's delusional . He won't even deal with the FACT that his countries politician lie to it's people to get them into war . That people take this so matter of factly is shocking to me . The implications are huge . Once people accept the obvious truth that they are not going to wars for the reasons they think they are we can move on to the real reason . It's green folks...and it's not envy . |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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America does nothing wrong. Don't let your self become disillusioned . America does things to make money for Americans, if you're excluded don't cry on our shoulders.  |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| CS: You just launched from WONJ to bald-faced liar in one fell swoop. |
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cunning_stunt
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| CS: You just launched from WONJ to bald-faced liar in one fell swoop. |
WONJ ?
What have I lied about ? You're one of those mediocre people who relies on others to do your thinking for you , huh ? Tell me honestly what you think drives your politicians ? Altriusm or money ?
You are acting like it's controversial to say money . How can you be so badly informed ? I'm not asking you to believe there's some new world order or bildenburg group trying to run the world or any such thing . I'm asking you to acknowledge a simply truth with a huge weight of evidence behind it : You go to wars because it makes certain powerful people very , very rich and it has sweet F-all to do with altruism .
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cunning_stunt
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| America does nothing wrong. Don't let your self become disillusioned . America does things to make money for Americans, if you're excluded don't cry on our shoulders. |
Money for CERTAIN Americans . Despite you , rather than for you . |
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ez2engage2
Joined: 19 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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He was tortured for 5 years. I'm sure he is a tad bitter.
To put it in perspective, look at how much American Koreans go crazy when people in the US ask them where they are from (or mistake them for Chinese). It is a source of a great deal of anti-White/Black hate among them. And that is just a question. 5 years of torture is bound to cause some permanent feelings of ill will.
I disagree with JM's policies on a lot of things, but he gets a pass on this. |
Let's say he was tortured by black people and he uses the N-word instead of "gook".
He's not some guy off the streets but a politician.
How would the media respond to that?
But it's okay as long as he refers the N-word to the guards and not all black people right?
Yeah, I'm sure he'll get a pass. |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| No they didn't attack pearl harbour . But they allowed it to happen . |
Garbage. The 'Panay' was attacked by Japan in 1937, without any provocation from the US, at all.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17110447
The US response? They placed a trade embargo on Japan, not unlike the global trade embargo on South Africa, in response to 'Apartheid', but still allowed much needed American oil into Japan . American missionaries saved thousands of Chinese in the Nanking massacre, & they had no political agenda, whatsoever.
And Japan also attacked Darwin in Australia, in February 1942, just 2 months after Pearl Harbour. Did Australia also invite / provoke the attack by Japan? No. |
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cunning_stunt
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: |
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The US response? They placed a trade embargo on Japan, not unlike the global trade embargo on South Africa, in response to 'Apartheid', but still allowed much needed American oil into Japan . American missionaries saved thousands of Chinese in the Nanking massacre, & they had no political agenda, whatsoever.
And Japan also attacked Darwin in Australia, in February 1942, just 2 months after Pearl Harbour. Did Australia also invite / provoke the attack by Japan? No. |
The issue is complicated and various historians have different takes . Other red flag events are far less controversial . It comes down to faith on either side in the available evidence and certainly you can't just write off one argument off . What doesn't come down to faith is that the united states actively lied about the reasons to invade Iraq and tried/are trying to pull the same stunt with Iran . Any war that is worth fighting can surely be justified by giving the real motives .What do you suggest they are for this war ?
The issue of altriusm is a whole debate on its own . Could you really convince yourself that the war with Iraq was for the benefit of Iraqis ? |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Hi - This board or rather, the discussions beyond "Buy and Sell" and "Teaching" are just junk. Girly PC ain-us wipe. I hope you all die in car accidents. |
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seoul_nhl
Joined: 18 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:20 am Post subject: Re: McCain hates "Gooks" |
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| http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml |
Yeah, well I like the kids and some adults but the rest of them.....lets just say I'd vote for McCain |
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cunning_stunt
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| Girly PC ain-us wipe. I hope you all die in car accidents. |
I with you on the car accidents....but what is girly pcain-us wipe ? |
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