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Scarlet13



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Becoming a recruiter Reply with quote

How is this done? What is legally required? It is a legitimate option for someone who wants to stay in Korea but cannot legally teach?

And yes I know what most of you think about recruiters but I'd like to know anyway so please spare the negativity. Thanks Very Happy
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Becoming a recruiter Reply with quote

Scarlet13 wrote:
How is this done? What is legally required? It is a legitimate option for someone who wants to stay in Korea but cannot legally teach?

And yes I know what most of you think about recruiters but I'd like to know anyway so please spare the negativity. Thanks Very Happy


If you have or have access to 50 million won for an investors visa OR you are married to a Korean (F2/F5) OR you have an F4 visa, it can be a viable option.

If you answered no to all the above questions, it is not a legal option.

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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: Becoming a recruiter Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Scarlet13 wrote:
How is this done? What is legally required? It is a legitimate option for someone who wants to stay in Korea but cannot legally teach?

And yes I know what most of you think about recruiters but I'd like to know anyway so please spare the negativity. Thanks Very Happy


If you have or have access to 50 million won for an investors visa OR you are married to a Korean (F2/F5) OR you have an F4 visa, it can be a viable option.

If you answered no to all the above questions, it is not a legal option.

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I could be wrong (it happens) but I thought that I read (or heard) that there was more to it than that. For example, a Korean would have to have a degree in HR.

Anyone know for sure?
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Donkey Beer



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You also need to begin practicing at telling bold face lies. By the time you have your 50k for the investor's visa you should ideally be a pro at telling lies.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How to Be a Recruiter

Step One: Go to www.devilspawn.com and sell your soul to satan. It is different than Faust...it is online now. Laughing

Step Two: Raise a puppy until it is an adult and then strangle it to death. This kills all human compassion. Crying or Very sad

Step Three: Remove all family ties that may stand in your service to the devil. You may even need to kill cousins if you are close to them. Evil or Very Mad

---After all of this, then you may be qualified to be a big enough son-of-a-biatch to work for the Korean schools as a recruiter.
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rD.NaTas



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Location: changwon

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

instead of raising the puppy ,can i just strangle sum random person? it seems almost quicker and more effective
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robot



Joined: 07 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To recruit legally, you need to have documents from the government that require you to first:

1) pass a huge recruiting test in Korean (4 test prep-sized books. I've seen them -- lots of rote memorization with BS questions like "In which chapter of the book did you learn information about X?")

or

2) have worked at a recruiting agency for 2 years.

Apparently this is a new stipulation to make the industry more professional...
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure I'm feeling the love here.
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joewaller



Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If recruiting isn't an option for any (many) of the above reasons, I'd recommend HR for one of the large chains. It will give you some interesting insight into the industry from nearly every perspective and opens doors into either recruiting or other company posts down the line.

And on the note of recruiting: I think that if you were to go into that business with a proper grasp of ethics and a firm intent to provide a service to teachers for job placement I don�t think it would be a terrible thing. If you think you are the sort of person who may be tempted violate those ethics along the way and give up your humanity for money�..I�d steer clear.
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KoreanAmbition



Joined: 03 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are all of you saying that you don't trust any recruiters?

I've seen threads about "footprints" and it doesn't seem to get a lot of respect.

I'm currently dealing with a recruiter, and she seems extremely friendly and honest. She has called me on the phone and talked for a long time. She has also responded to my emails rather efficiently and written very long detailed letters which highly impressed me.

Are you saying that possibly I should still be worried?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

99.999% of all recruiters are scum. They make lawyers look GOOD by comparison.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joewaller wrote:
If recruiting isn't an option for any (many) of the above reasons, I'd recommend HR for one of the large chains. It will give you some interesting insight into the industry from nearly every perspective and opens doors into either recruiting or other company posts down the line.

And on the note of recruiting: I think that if you were to go into that business with a proper grasp of ethics and a firm intent to provide a service to teachers for job placement I don�t think it would be a terrible thing. If you think you are the sort of person who may be tempted violate those ethics along the way and give up your humanity for money�..I�d steer clear.


Uh, are you saying that the amoral habitual liars that make up the recruiting industry are UNAWARE that they are lying? Stop making excuses for them. They are all adults and well aware of the damage that they do to people's lives.
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Netz



Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:

Uh, are you saying that the amoral habitual liars that make up the recruiting industry are UNAWARE that they are lying? Stop making excuses for them. They are all adults and well aware of the damage that they do to people's lives.


I have to agree with this.

The thing that gets me is, how do they justify keeping way more than a reasonable percentage of the money for doing so little.

Seriously, in a lump sum (or sometimes month after month) these clowns get paid a percentage of the teacher's wages for not doing jack &^$%.

What do they tell themselves in order to feel comfortable living off the work of another person month after month for doing absolutley nothing.

How do they justify taking such a large cut of money when the hire is made, only to dissappear off the radar after the contract is signed.

Let's just say this;

ESL Recruiting in Korea is basically government sanctioned "slave trading".

It does not operate under any of the normal ethics that appy to legitimate headhunting/placement services in the rest of the civilized world.

Most headhunters are respectable people who provide a valuable service, and act in a professional manner.

In Korea, they are bloodsucking parasites, that form unatrual symbiotic relationships with thier "clients", in order to attach themselves to your income in some way for as long as possible.

The goal of Korean English teaching recruiter is not to help you, it is to help themselves........to as many other people's money as possible, for as long as possible, in any way possible.



What do you call 100 recruiters at the bottom of the ocean?















A good start.
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The Hammer



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This photo sums up the teacher-recruiter relationship nicely.
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expat2001



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KoreanAmbition wrote:
Are all of you saying that you don't trust any recruiters?

I've seen threads about "footprints" and it doesn't seem to get a lot of respect.

I'm currently dealing with a recruiter, and she seems extremely friendly and honest. She has called me on the phone and talked for a long time. She has also responded to my emails rather efficiently and written very long detailed letters which highly impressed me.

Are you saying that possibly I should still be worried?


Of course she will spend a little bit of time with you ,cause she knows she can make anywhere between 1 million and 1.5 million once you sigh the contract
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