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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: korean red peppers Reply with quote

what variety are they? cayenne (doubtful)? (ripe) jalapeno?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both the cayenne pepper and Korean red pepper (고추) are of the same variety, Capsicum annuum.
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't a clue what they are, but they definitely are NOT cayenne or jalapeno. They are more slender than the latter, and thicker than the former. Both the cayenne and the jalapeno have more capsaicin than the local peppers.

They look a lot like a Dutch Chili, which has a heat of 5000-10,000
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue Lake, if they're the same, why the lesser heat of Korean peppers?
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarionG wrote:
Blue Lake, if they're the same, why the lesser heat of Korean peppers?


MG,

I'm not a botanist (I don't even play one on TV), but I've noticed things that are planted in one place aren't the same when planted elsewhere. It's probably due to soil and climate I would guess.

As for them being the same, check out the botanical names for both.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

according to wikipedia, capsicum annum is fairly broad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capsicum_annuum
which does include cayenne. but also bell peppers and jalapenos and others


so it's still up in the air...
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nicholas_chiasson



Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked produce farms in the summer so...
In agriculture the term 'species' is not used. Most domesticated vegetables and fruits are the same species and capable of cross-pollination. Hybrid varities often can't even reproduce at all. We used the term cultivar a portmonteau from cultivated-variety. A given fruit or vegetable species may have 100's of cultivars, like the potato or tomato. Corn comes on at least 4 colors. Its still the same species.
-So the exact question "what are korean peppers" after 100 years of growing them in korea can really only be answered "korean peppers.:
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even when looking at cayenne, the actual variety may differ. For example:

Capsicum annuum var. annuum

Capsicum annuum var. glabriusculum

Here is a fairly comprehensive list of capsicum annuum varieties:

http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Capsicum_annuum.html
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shifty



Joined: 21 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know if red peppers are rich in vitamin C ??

Assuming they are, wouldn't the vitamin deteriorate or disappear altogether during fermentation and/or any other process undergone in say the making of kimchi ???

Suppose I could look it up, but I know that someone is bursting to tell me.
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Suwon23



Joined: 24 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifty wrote:
Anyone know if red peppers are rich in vitamin C ??

Assuming they are, wouldn't the vitamin deteriorate or disappear altogether during fermentation and/or any other process undergone in say the making of kimchi ???


EDIT: quick google search confirms, lots of vitamin C in kimchi.
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess they're just different varieties of the same plant, and both Blue Lake and Reactionary are right.

I love Mexican food, but much of it is too hot for me. I think jalapeno peppers are permanently damaging! However, I can eat all sorts of things here with heavy red pepper seasoning (like jholl myin-sorry for the spelling) and enjoy it...without permanent damage!
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i do think the process here of turning into a paste or a powder reduces a lot of the kick.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too long, IMHO.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarionG wrote:
I guess they're just different varieties of the same plant, and both Blue Lake and Reactionary are right.

I love Mexican food, but much of it is too hot for me. I think jalapeno peppers are permanently damaging! However, I can eat all sorts of things here with heavy red pepper seasoning (like jholl myin-sorry for the spelling) and enjoy it...without permanent damage!


Reminds me of a somewhat funny story (she can laugh at it now). When my wife and I moved back to the States after marrying over twenty-three years ago, I took her to a local Mexican restaurant. The waitress brought nachos and red and green pepper dip. Before I could stop her, my wife took a big dip into the green, believing it would be mild, and downed it. She emptied all the water on our table and surrounding tables. She was much more careful after realizing other countries have spicy food too.
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