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it's full of stars

Joined: 26 Dec 2007
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: |
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Just an idea, ignore him? Send him to Coventry.
Na, he's a fool and it's funny to read how he gets consistently proven wrong. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
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| I'm not at all in favor of banning. If we go to Asia Finest and say equivalent things, we'll get banned, and possibly even get banned for being white. Over here, we don't ban, and it thus becomes clear which of the two cultures is superior, as if that wasn't already crystal clear. ! |
Dave's and Asia Finest are cultures? Even going by the lax standards of the Web that's a bit of a stretch. And the laxity of moderators is hardly indicative of a website's superiority. |
I meant the cultures the people come from and views subscribed to. Taking a brief look at asiafinest yields explicit, violent racism. Daves does not. The reason is obvious and simple: in the West, racism is deeply taboo and the exception rather than the norm; in East Asia, it is the norm rather than the exception. The reason for East Asian, particularly Korean, males subscribing to such primitive, barbarically-violent and offensive views is equally obvious and simple: they are deprived of sex as the low status, low-earning folks that they are. Muslim males are similarly afflicted because those societies are polygamous and there is a shortage of women and that's partly the reason Muslim males are incredibly violent and place their problems conveniently at the door of the West/Israel. |
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nebraska1

Joined: 06 Jan 2008 Location: Judge, Some people just need killin!
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| twg wrote: |
| just another day wrote: |
| in the end, what bugs u guys is the idea of someone disagreeing with your world views. |
No, what bugs us is that you're an annoying race-baiting moron.
Don't give yourself more credit than you deserve. |
*APPLAUSE* ABSO-&^%ING- LOUTLY
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| The_Conservative wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
| I'm not at all in favor of banning. If we go to Asia Finest and say equivalent things, we'll get banned, and possibly even get banned for being white. Over here, we don't ban, and it thus becomes clear which of the two cultures is superior, as if that wasn't already crystal clear. ! |
Dave's and Asia Finest are cultures? Even going by the lax standards of the Web that's a bit of a stretch. And the laxity of moderators is hardly indicative of a website's superiority. |
I meant the cultures the people come from and views subscribed to. Taking a brief look at asiafinest yields explicit, violent racism. Daves does not. The reason is obvious and simple: in the West, racism is deeply taboo and the exception rather than the norm; in East Asia, it is the norm rather than the exception. The reason for East Asian, particularly Korean, males subscribing to such primitive, barbarically-violent and offensive views is equally obvious and simple: they are deprived of sex as the low status, low-earning folks that they are. Muslim males are similarly afflicted because those societies are polygamous and there is a shortage of women and that's partly the reason Muslim males are incredibly violent and place their problems conveniently at the door of the West/Israel. |
(bolding mine)
However I would say that Dave's and AsiaFinest are NOT representative of their respective cultures (and Dave's has people from at least seven different nationalities or more). That's even more of a stretch. Seriously, you are defining a entire culture by what you read on a website?
Plus we do ban...it just takes an awful lot to get perma-banned over here.
Once again they do not equate to the whole of our cultures, it is the people on the website. I would think you could easily find lots of "white pride" groups on the Web who come from the same culture(s) as us. |
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shantaram

Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| in the West, racism is deeply taboo and the exception rather than the norm; in East Asia, it is the norm rather than the exception. The reason for East Asian, particularly Korean, males subscribing to such primitive, barbarically-violent and offensive views is equally obvious and simple: they are deprived of sex as the low status, low-earning folks that they are. Muslim males are similarly afflicted because those societies are polygamous and there is a shortage of women and that's partly the reason Muslim males are incredibly violent |
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| I work my ass off and reap the rewards and not just financial - women too! Women like money, it's in their genes. Sure, they like looks too. It's arguably less important than with guys; it's there though. Seen a Korean drama recently? Were those women born with those noses and eyes? No, they weren't, but hey, some folks in this world are! |
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| I would think you could easily find lots of "white pride" groups on the Web who come from the same culture(s) as us. |
Oh, I thought this was the white pride message board. That's what this has turned into.
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: |
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| I would think you could easily find lots of "white pride" groups on the Web who come from the same culture(s) as us. |
Oh, I thought this was the white pride message board. |
Only if you happen to be a complete moron.
The overt and not-so-overt bigots tend to get treated pretty badly here. Go bad and witness JAD's treatment by everyone for evidence of that. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007 Location: On your computer screen.
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
I meant the cultures the people come from and views subscribed to. Taking a brief look at asiafinest yields explicit, violent racism. Daves does not. The reason is obvious and simple: in the West, racism is deeply taboo and the exception rather than the norm; in East Asia, it is the norm rather than the exception. The reason for East Asian, particularly Korean, males subscribing to such primitive, barbarically-violent and offensive views is equally obvious and simple: they are deprived of sex as the low status, low-earning folks that they are. Muslim males are similarly afflicted because those societies are polygamous and there is a shortage of women and that's partly the reason Muslim males are incredibly violent and place their problems conveniently at the door of the West/Israel. |
I'm not defending JAD but this sort of comment is just as stupid and bigoted as some of what JAD says but nobody ever calls this guy out because he's on the Korean haters' side. |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| Nah, a lot of people are finding Justin to be an insufferable twit as well. Give him a few more weeks and he'll be at JAD levels of being mocked by everyone. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| asylum seeker wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
I meant the cultures the people come from and views subscribed to. Taking a brief look at asiafinest yields explicit, violent racism. Daves does not. The reason is obvious and simple: in the West, racism is deeply taboo and the exception rather than the norm; in East Asia, it is the norm rather than the exception. The reason for East Asian, particularly Korean, males subscribing to such primitive, barbarically-violent and offensive views is equally obvious and simple: they are deprived of sex as the low status, low-earning folks that they are. Muslim males are similarly afflicted because those societies are polygamous and there is a shortage of women and that's partly the reason Muslim males are incredibly violent and place their problems conveniently at the door of the West/Israel. |
I'm not defending JAD but this sort of comment is just as stupid and bigoted as some of what JAD says but nobody ever calls this guy out because he's on the Korean haters' side. |
Don't worry, this guy is a fanatical as any religious fanatic you can find, and probably much more dangerous if anyone took him seriously. When I saw that paragraph, I didn't feel it was even worth talking about as it's so amazingly crazy. It has gaping holes all over it, but that's what fanaticism is. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| asylum seeker wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
I meant the cultures the people come from and views subscribed to. Taking a brief look at asiafinest yields explicit, violent racism. Daves does not. The reason is obvious and simple: in the West, racism is deeply taboo and the exception rather than the norm; in East Asia, it is the norm rather than the exception. The reason for East Asian, particularly Korean, males subscribing to such primitive, barbarically-violent and offensive views is equally obvious and simple: they are deprived of sex as the low status, low-earning folks that they are. Muslim males are similarly afflicted because those societies are polygamous and there is a shortage of women and that's partly the reason Muslim males are incredibly violent and place their problems conveniently at the door of the West/Israel. |
I'm not defending JAD but this sort of comment is just as stupid and bigoted as some of what JAD says but nobody ever calls this guy out because he's on the Korean haters' side. |
ad hominem.
Take the ball, not the player.
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| Nah, a lot of people are finding Justin to be an insufferable twit as well. Give him a few more weeks and he'll be at JAD levels of being mocked by everyone. |
It's an ad hominem - attack the claim, not the claimer.
| Laogaiguk wrote: |
| Don't worry, this guy is a fanatical as any religious fanatic you can find, and probably much more dangerous if anyone took him seriously. When I saw that paragraph, I didn't feel it was even worth talking about as it's so amazingly crazy. It has gaping holes all over it, but that's what fanaticism is. |
There are absolutely no gaping holes. If there were, you'd be able to identify them, which you clearly aren't able to do. It's an invalid ad hominem argument in any case. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
There are absolutely no gaping holes. If there were, you'd be able to identify them, which you clearly aren't able to do. It's an invalid ad hominem argument in any case. |
Again, you don't see past your own box. You aren't worth it, and I am not going to spend hours worrying about your opinion, as it means crap. That is a perfectly valid reason. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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More ad hominem.
You're not worth it! Your opinion doesn't affect me!
Yet you continue to reply. Rather sad really. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
More ad hominem.
You're not worth it! Your opinion doesn't affect me!
Yet you continue to reply. Rather sad really. |
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flakfizer

Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
| asylum seeker wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
I meant the cultures the people come from and views subscribed to. Taking a brief look at asiafinest yields explicit, violent racism. Daves does not. The reason is obvious and simple: in the West, racism is deeply taboo and the exception rather than the norm; in East Asia, it is the norm rather than the exception. The reason for East Asian, particularly Korean, males subscribing to such primitive, barbarically-violent and offensive views is equally obvious and simple: they are deprived of sex as the low status, low-earning folks that they are. Muslim males are similarly afflicted because those societies are polygamous and there is a shortage of women and that's partly the reason Muslim males are incredibly violent and place their problems conveniently at the door of the West/Israel. |
I'm not defending JAD but this sort of comment is just as stupid and bigoted as some of what JAD says but nobody ever calls this guy out because he's on the Korean haters' side. |
ad hominem.
Take the ball, not the player.
| twg wrote: |
| Nah, a lot of people are finding Justin to be an insufferable twit as well. Give him a few more weeks and he'll be at JAD levels of being mocked by everyone. |
It's an ad hominem - attack the claim, not the claimer.
| Laogaiguk wrote: |
| Don't worry, this guy is a fanatical as any religious fanatic you can find, and probably much more dangerous if anyone took him seriously. When I saw that paragraph, I didn't feel it was even worth talking about as it's so amazingly crazy. It has gaping holes all over it, but that's what fanaticism is. |
There are absolutely no gaping holes. If there were, you'd be able to identify them, which you clearly aren't able to do. It's an invalid ad hominem argument in any case. |
Enough with your lame "ad hominem" response. Here is what you said about Asian/Korean men:
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| The reason for East Asian, particularly Korean, males subscribing to such primitive, barbarically-violent and offensive views is equally obvious and simple: they are deprived of sex as the low status, low-earning folks that they are |
What is this? Is this from some study you'd like to link us to? Or is just your opinion based on your observations? Well, this:
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| lot of people are finding Justin to be an insufferable twit |
Is also based on personal observation. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| flakfizer wrote: |
Enough with your lame "ad hominem" response.
1. Here is what you said about Asian/Korean men:
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| The reason for East Asian, particularly Korean, males subscribing to such primitive, barbarically-violent and offensive views is equally obvious and simple: they are deprived of sex as the low status, low-earning folks that they are |
What is this? Is this from some study you'd like to link us to? Or is just your opinion based on your observations? Well, this:
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| lot of people are finding Justin to be an insufferable twit |
Is also based on personal observation. |
The racist, bug-eyed, frothy vitriol at Asiafinest is a reflection of losers with low-paying jobs, no girlfriends, few if any prospects. To argue otherwise is to stray from what is reasonable, decent and proper.
Korea has a sex ratio of 1.01 (meaning for every 10 million Korean girls, there are 10,100,000 Korean guys), meaning demand for young, attractive women is at a premium. The likelihood of racist, stupid people on an online forum like that being attractive high-earners is 0% whilst guys on here earn, taking free accommodation into account, almost as much as families of three. I earn 4.2, meaning I bank $3,000 per month. That means guys on here, especially those proficient in Korean, can blow away low status opposition and the rampant hostility from some Korean males towards us reflects this simple fact.
Look at countries with lots and lots of angry males and look at the sex ratios: Saudi (1.96 males for every girl), Iran (1.026), Iraq (1.024), Jordan (1.102), Kuwait (1.526), Libya (1.052), Gaza (1.037).
Notice how violent hotbeds like Iceland, Sweden and Greece have more women? |
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