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sigmundsmith



Joined: 22 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:52 am    Post subject: Slope Etiquette Reply with quote

Is it me or are Koreans Inherently dangerous on the ski slopes.

I only started learning to snowboard here in Korea (so I can't compare it to other countries) so every time I go to one of the resorts, it's like standing in the middle of the Olympic Expressway.

No one seems to look around while they are gliding down the slopes. The majority of the runs here are not very wide (I don't know if they are on par with other countries) and Koreans like to take up the whole width of the slope with no regard to other people on the slopes. Collissions are frequent.

Is this a cultural phenomena for Korea or is the standard practices of snow junkies all across the world at all the different resorts.

Can some enlighten me? Those who have skied/boarded in the home country or other countries, what is the etiquette for shoshing down the slopes?
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The Perfect Cup of Coffee



Joined: 17 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other than Korea I have only been skiing in the United States, Canada, and Chile, and from my experience I've never seen ANYTHING like the ski resort at Muju, it was absolute mayhem. The lines at the lift were sometimes 30-40 minutes long and people were crashing and banging all over the place. We're moving back to Korea from Chile and I just went ahead and sold my skis instead of bringing them. Unless there are resorts better than Muju I don't see much reason in skiing in Korea (especially since the price is double what you pay elsewhere)
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bondjimbond



Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh. I was skiing yesterday in Namyangju, and it was bizarre. All over the hill were people sitting and resting, standing and chatting, having a smoke, while people like myself had to fly into fences or barrel into the ground to avoid them.

There's nothing more frightening than going around a sharp curve down a steep diamond slope and seeing a crowd of inconsiderate morons just waiting to get either you or themselves killed while they calmly sit and watch people on the other hills.
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Stoakley



Joined: 20 Nov 2007
Location: Florea

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I grew up (mostly) amongst Asians so I initially thought slope meant:


11. Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. an Asian, esp. a Vietnamese.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slope

Oops!

..but being from the tropics I never really enjoyed snow, sooooo....

Cheers,

Stoakley
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just like the sidewalk.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say the main rule here is watch all around you, and don't get hit. Consider yourself invisible to everyone else. As a scooter driver I'm used to that sort of situation.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't ski, but if Koreans behave on the ski hills as they do on the roads here, I would be staying far, far away.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got back from a two day trip to YongPyong, and a few weeks ago skiied one day at Phoenix Park. I've been skiing for well over a decade in the United States and Canada.

Hopefully that establishes some credibility. That being done, let me say that I don't think Korean skiing is any more dangerous than in North America except that there are more people on the slopes. Skiing habits seem the same to me.

If you want to avoid the crowds though, go on the black diamond hills if you can- I went on a green circle hill and found them so crowded that it was more dangerous than the advanced runs.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thought of thousands of Koreans on a ski hill is both hillarious and terrifying. Take a sport that combines speed and a necessity to be aware of one's surroundings, and I couldn't think of a worse sport for Koreans to do.

"(Koreans smoking on the hill)"-hahahahaha.
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started skiing 26 years ago. I came to Korea 8 years ago. So in 18 years of skiing in the west I can say I never once saw a person attack another person with their ski poles. While in Korea I have seen that happen every time I have gone skiing . A man angry at a kid for running in to him. A man angry at another man for "cutting him off". The reasons go on and on. I was shocked at first, but now I just giggle. It is crazy. It is like people forget that God gave them mouths and brains to talk rationally about problems. The mindset seems to be I have a sharp weapon and I am going to hit anyone who crosses me with it. I can safely say the ettiquite here is not the same as the west. I don't ski here anymore and am very excited to go skiing back in the west in the near future as I really miss it.
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PEIGUY



Joined: 28 Mar 2004
Location: Omokgyo

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

air76 wrote:
Other than Korea I have only been skiing in the United States, Canada, and Chile, and from my experience I've never seen ANYTHING like the ski resort at Muju, it was absolute mayhem. The lines at the lift were sometimes 30-40 minutes long and people were crashing and banging all over the place. We're moving back to Korea from Chile and I just went ahead and sold my skis instead of bringing them. Unless there are resorts better than Muju I don't see much reason in skiing in Korea (especially since the price is double what you pay elsewhere)


I was skiing at Muju on Wednesday and Thursday and my friend and I skied right onto the lifts right away without having to wait. We got discounts on the hotel room and discounts for rentals. However, that is because it was Lunar New Year. When we left on Friday afternoon the lifts were all jammed up.. but, one side of the mountain Seolsan House was a lot busier than the other side. As other people have said, stick to the black diamonds, not very often you'll find someone sitting down there and if they do you have plenty of time to see them. My friend and I watched a snowboarder sitting down in the snow on an intermediate trail and on a blind corner having a smoke. Needless to say I probably would have attacked him with my poles for being so stupid. My friend and I watched from the lift as he almost got hit two times.. both times unaware of how close people were to hitting him and just avoiding him.. sometimes.. common sense doesn't kick in... Confused
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funkywinkerbeans



Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Location: seoul

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans ski the way they drive. Never got in an accident with another person while skiing back home.

Two hits with Koreans on the slopes and I'm paying attention. Both times with Jack snowboarders who have turned into me on their blind side. Back home, I could let my mind wander and enjoy the runs. Here , you have to be vigilant as I've seen some crazy stuff on the slopes.
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plus99



Joined: 30 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i prefer "nip" and "charlie," personally
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The Perfect Cup of Coffee



Joined: 17 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plus99 wrote:
i prefer "nip" and "charlie," personally


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