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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: My position |
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My statement of position,
Outside the very narrow chance I believe Mike Huckabee has of gaining the Republican nomination for President, I'd like to say I'm pleased with the choices we have left.
In fact, it's hard to imagine change not coming in 2008. As such, I'm happy already with the choices we have at the moment.
Looking back on the US over the past 20+ years, if I were to cite one single issue I would like to be treated with some semblance of sanity, it is the economy. I don't hold strong at all with groups who revel in the idea that we defeated the Soviet Union via deficit spending have the proper picture of how much that deficit has cost us.
Rather, many are trumping this "fiscally conservative" policy for its results before anyone can properly account for the result before we yhave anything remote to a means of repaying our debt.
Indeed, Ronald Reagan set this destiny for us. George W Bush clearly took this notion and ran with it: to the detriment of our country.
Since Reagan's time, only one president has balanced the budget.
Bill Clinton did.
Hillary Clinton was a controversial first-lady due to her active role in the then-president's politics.
This only strengthens the argument for her to be the next president of the United States.
DISCLAIMERS:
1) I would be most happy to have a viable choice beyond the two parties.
2) Obama promises "a new choice". That choice is essentially to vote for him. There is really nothing tangible that his platform would change.
3) This applies doubly to McCain. The Republicans had a chance to abandon their Christian, pro-life extremism (fine, call it pro-murder; call it whatever you want, but you make America look medieval when you do).
4) American Conservatives, kicking and screaming, have just witnessed the end of their retardation being taken seriously. Yeah. Regroup.
5) FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY DOES NOT CEASE TO EXIST BECAUSE YOU DECLARE WAR
ONE PARTY PERSISTED THAT IT DOES.
McCain is a Republican Dummkopf.
Being in between pro-Nazi and anti-Nazi doesn't elevate you you to some special position. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I think arguing her time as first lady adds experience for her to be president is a stretch. If you want to argue her time in the US Senate or her probono work gives her experience, then that makes more sense. Being the spouse of a former president is not a qualification. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Being the spouse of a former president is not a qualification. |
Right. The argument is that she served as more than spouse during the Clinton administration. |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: My position |
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| Nowhere Man wrote: |
My statement of position,
Outside the very narrow chance I believe Mike Huckabee has of gaining the Republican nomination for President, I'd like to say I'm pleased with the choices we have left.
In fact, it's hard to imagine change not coming in 2008. As such, I'm happy already with the choices we have at the moment.
Looking back on the US over the past 20+ years, if I were to cite one single issue I would like to be treated with some semblance of sanity, it is the economy. I don't hold strong at all with groups who revel in the idea that we defeated the Soviet Union via deficit spending have the proper picture of how much that deficit has cost us.
Rather, many are trumping this "fiscally conservative" policy for its results before anyone can properly account for the result before we yhave anything remote to a means of repaying our debt.
Indeed, Ronald Reagan set this destiny for us. George W Bush clearly took this notion and ran with it: to the detriment of our country.
Since Reagan's time, only one president has balanced the budget.
Bill Clinton did.
Hillary Clinton was a controversial first-lady due to her active role in the then-president's politics.
This only strengthens the argument for her to be the next president of the United States.
DISCLAIMERS:
1) I would be most happy to have a viable choice beyond the two parties.
2) Obama promises "a new choice". That choice is essentially to vote for him. There is really nothing tangible that his platform would change.
3) This applies doubly to McCain. The Republicans had a chance to abandon their Christian, pro-life extremism (fine, call it pro-murder; call it whatever you want, but you make America look medieval when you do).
4) American Conservatives, kicking and screaming, have just witnessed the end of their retardation being taken seriously. Yeah. Regroup.
5) FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY DOES NOT CEASE TO EXIST BECAUSE YOU DECLARE WAR
ONE PARTY PERSISTED THAT IT DOES.
McCain is a Republican Dummkopf.
Being in between pro-Nazi and anti-Nazi doesn't elevate you you to some special position. |
Are you quite done spewing as you play with yourself while looking at Bubba and Hilly's photo?
Hillary has no strong case to be President. Sure, neither did W. Electing another bad leader won't help solve things either...and Hilly would be exactly that.
Obama and McCain are clearly the best choices. One would hope that an educated person would look at the issues and make an informed decision. I see you are being typically Democrat and voting on emotion.
Let's not even start with the abortion thing. If you seriously believe that killing babies is less medieval than speaking out against infanticide, then I have a lower opinion of your position than ever...if that is possible.
Vocally stating you are anti-Nazi while supporting the Nazis makes one....well....worse than a Nazi. Well done! |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject: Re: My position |
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| wannago wrote: |
| Nowhere Man wrote: |
My statement of position,
Outside the very narrow chance I believe Mike Huckabee has of gaining the Republican nomination for President, I'd like to say I'm pleased with the choices we have left.
In fact, it's hard to imagine change not coming in 2008. As such, I'm happy already with the choices we have at the moment.
Looking back on the US over the past 20+ years, if I were to cite one single issue I would like to be treated with some semblance of sanity, it is the economy. I don't hold strong at all with groups who revel in the idea that we defeated the Soviet Union via deficit spending have the proper picture of how much that deficit has cost us.
Rather, many are trumping this "fiscally conservative" policy for its results before anyone can properly account for the result before we yhave anything remote to a means of repaying our debt.
Indeed, Ronald Reagan set this destiny for us. George W Bush clearly took this notion and ran with it: to the detriment of our country.
Since Reagan's time, only one president has balanced the budget.
Bill Clinton did.
Hillary Clinton was a controversial first-lady due to her active role in the then-president's politics.
This only strengthens the argument for her to be the next president of the United States.
DISCLAIMERS:
1) I would be most happy to have a viable choice beyond the two parties.
2) Obama promises "a new choice". That choice is essentially to vote for him. There is really nothing tangible that his platform would change.
3) This applies doubly to McCain. The Republicans had a chance to abandon their Christian, pro-life extremism (fine, call it pro-murder; call it whatever you want, but you make America look medieval when you do).
4) American Conservatives, kicking and screaming, have just witnessed the end of their retardation being taken seriously. Yeah. Regroup.
5) FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY DOES NOT CEASE TO EXIST BECAUSE YOU DECLARE WAR
ONE PARTY PERSISTED THAT IT DOES.
McCain is a Republican Dummkopf.
Being in between pro-Nazi and anti-Nazi doesn't elevate you you to some special position. |
Are you quite done spewing as you play with yourself while looking at Bubba and Hilly's photo?
Hillary has no strong case to be President. Sure, neither did W. Electing another bad leader won't help solve things either...and Hilly would be exactly that.
Obama and McCain are clearly the best choices. One would hope that an educated person would look at the issues and make an informed decision. I see you are being typically Democrat and voting on emotion.
Let's not even start with the abortion thing. If you seriously believe that killing babies is less medieval than speaking out against infanticide, then I have a lower opinion of your position than ever...if that is possible.
Vocally stating you are anti-Nazi while supporting the Nazis makes one....well....worse than a Nazi. Well done! |
*sits quietly laughing* |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: ... |
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| Are you quite done spewing as you play with yourself while looking at Bubba and Hilly's photo? |
Nope.
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| Hillary has no strong case to be President. |
She does.
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| Sure, neither did W. Electing another bad leader won't help solve things either...and Hilly would be exactly that. |
OH. After 8 years of "Evilllllll Busheeeeee", you're now calling him a bad leader?
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| Obama and McCain are clearly the best choices. |
Not EEEEeeevilllll Hilllllllareeeeeeeee?
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| One would hope that an educated person would look at the issues and make an informed decision. |
Yup.
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| I see you are being typically Democrat and voting on emotion. |
OK. Psychoanalysis is a lame way to counter arguments.
No one likes taxes. Being "anti-tax" is a kiddie, overused Republican ploy for votes.
Deficit spending goes beyond kiddie. It's retarded.
Before we move on, understand that.
Did Reagan influence America moreso than Bill Clinton? Perhaps yes. However, the jury is still out on the final product of a massive (not fiscally responsible) spending package which we are only now reaping the fallout from.
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| Let's not even start with the abortion thing. If you seriously believe that killing babies is less medieval than speaking out against infanticide, then I have a lower opinion of your position than ever...if that is possible. |
You see abortion as killing babies. I don't. Take your Nathaniel Hawthorne, 18th-century notions of morality back to said century.
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| Vocally stating you are anti-Nazi while supporting the Nazis makes one....well....worse than a Nazi. Well done! |
I'd like to see you water-boarded till you agree with me. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I did not support Bush's tax cuts , nevertheless there are a lot of smart people who claim that cutting taxes raises productivity.
It is not a black and white issue. |
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