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mistermasan · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

mccain can't be president. he was born in panama. he is not "native born" (just like schartzenegger). "native born" is a requirement as per the constitution. military bases abroad are not US teritory and kids born there do not get US citizenship by birth.

who is second in the GOP race?

Leslie Cheswyck · Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile

Yes he can.

mistermasan · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

quoting the wikipedia you provided: "...it has never been fully addressed whether children born to Americans overseas are "natural born citizens" and thus eligible for the Presidency."

Leslie Cheswyck · Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile

Then it's not settled, is it?

Anyway, McCain was born way before the Constitution was ratified. So, what's the problem? Laughing

mistermasan · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

born in panama before the constitution.

Leslie Cheswyck · Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile

Yes, that definitely puts him out. Mad

Milwaukiedave · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong

It seems like a far fetched arguement to get rid of McCain. The party is going to nominate him, so that's who you are stuck with.

mistermasan · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

yes, in this modern time following the constitution is farfetched.

as long as we have a ruling class that puts themselves above the law we shall continue to have... a ruling class in a purported democratic republic.

out with the old vested interests, in with the new vested interests!

bacasper · Joined: 26 Mar 2007

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

masan, you've posted quite a few silly things before, but this one is probably the silliest.

John Sidney McCain was born on August 29, 1936, in the Panama Canal Zone. Born into a family with a distinguished reputation in the U.S. Navy, both his father and grandfather were admirals and his father rose to command all the U.S. naval forces in the Pacific, McCain spent his childhood and adolescent years moving between naval bases in America and abroad.

In other words, you are saying a kid born abroad to two citizens of the US, one of them a parent on active military duty at the time is not a natural born citizen?

Only an idiot would bring this up.

You would get farther if you wanted to challenge his right to be president because his middle name is Sidney. That would get some support.

mistermasan · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

found it. 8USC1403 made it so that anyone born in the panama territory to US parents during that era were 'natural born" americans.

so, ok, mccain can now legally lose to any democratic candidate.

Milwaukiedave · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong

mistermasan · Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

please address the topic of the post and not the poster.

overseas military posts are not US soil. yes, there are two ways to be born american: be born in the US or be born of US parentage.

the eligibility of who can be president is spelled out in the constitution: "No Person except a natural born...". kinda hard to see where being born in panama makes one native of the US.

happily, as noted in a previous post- 8USC1403 is clear enough to provide "native born" status to children of american born in the canal zone back in the day.

Milwaukiedave · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong

bacasper · Joined: 26 Mar 2007