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pangaea
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 Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:03 am Post subject: Taking a dog on the flight home |
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| I have a small dog that will be coming home with me and I am looking for advice from other people who have traveled with dogs. Is there a particular airline that is better for traveling with a pet? Is there a climate controlled area where they are kept on the flight? Does anyone check on them? My dog is small enough that she could probably fit under the seat in a crate but I am not sure if that would be best for her. I would prefer to have her with me but I'm afraid she will be upset on the flight (whining, barking, etc.) and disturb the other passengers. Will a vet here prescribe medication, maybe a mild sedative, to help keep her calm on the flight? Any advice would be helpful. |
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gajackson1
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei
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Ok, we are under the general impression that your dog is licensed, has shots, registration, etc., and you have already looked into the laws about your own country.
The next step is to get in touch with the airline you are traveling on, either through their website and/or with an agent who can answer your questions.
Some vets will/would prescribe 'doggie downers' or somesuch, but with a dog that size, it is a question mark.
Airlines usually do NOT send someone to check on animals, so make the carrier as safe/snug/comfy as you can - I hear a ticky alarm clock in a fuzzy sock does wonders (although, post-911, maybe NOT a good idea).
Best of lucjk to you - when we leave Korea, 1 smallish dog & 3 cats, at the least, will be going with us.
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Rock
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: Re: Taking a dog on the flight home |
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| pangaea wrote: |
| I have a small dog that will be coming home with me and I am looking for advice from other people who have traveled with dogs. Is there a particular airline that is better for traveling with a pet? Is there a climate controlled area where they are kept on the flight? Does anyone check on them? My dog is small enough that she could probably fit under the seat in a crate but I am not sure if that would be best for her. I would prefer to have her with me but I'm afraid she will be upset on the flight (whining, barking, etc.) and disturb the other passengers. Will a vet here prescribe medication, maybe a mild sedative, to help keep her calm on the flight? Any advice would be helpful. |
I took a dog home twice, so there aren't any real restrictions. Most likely you'll be flying KoreanAir, so contact them. I do not think they allow your pooch in the cabin though, so you'll probably have to bring it via cargo. The following you have to make sure of.
*A suitable cage
*The temps outside(Too cold, and they won't fly your dog.)
*Port of destination and paperwork they require(Korea doesn't care what
you fly out.)
*Cargo is supposed to be climate controlled, but ask beforehand and
they should give you some kind of proof before the flight takes off that
your dog is safe and sound. |
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SeoulShakin
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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My dog is coming home with me on March 2nd. I am flying Korean Air, then transferring to Air Canada.
The cabin temperature they said ranges between 4 and 7 degrees celcius (sp?). They said because my dog is small (4kg) to make sure she had blankets etc. I'm obviously going to give her a fleece blanket with her, and have bought her a little puppy parka to wear, even though I'm generally opposed to the idea of clothing on dogs.
DO NOT GIVE YOUR DOG ANY SORT OF TRANQUILIZER OR DOGGIE DOWNER!
All of the research I have done on the internet with different airlines, and after talking to my vet in Korea and my vet at home says not to. While your dog may react fine to a tranquilizer or "downer" on the ground, the drug can have different effects at different altitudes and is not recommended at all, especially since nobody will be going to check on the pet while you are in the air. It is not recommended at all. |
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SeoulShakin
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, that should say cargo temperature, not cabin temperature. |
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plus99
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| <3 pups. |
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SuperHero
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Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Animals should never be allowed in the cabin! |
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plus99
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| dude id have gladly given michael vick the electric chair. probably you too. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| Animals should never be allowed in the cabin! |
What about people with contageous diseases such as SARS, TB and Malaria? And how about people with knives? I'd be more worried about the people in the cabin than some small puppie.  |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:45 am Post subject: Re: Taking a dog on the flight home |
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| pangaea wrote: |
| I have a small dog that will be coming home with me and I am looking for advice from other people who have traveled with dogs. Is there a particular airline that is better for traveling with a pet? Is there a climate controlled area where they are kept on the flight? Does anyone check on them? My dog is small enough that she could probably fit under the seat in a crate but I am not sure if that would be best for her. I would prefer to have her with me but I'm afraid she will be upset on the flight (whining, barking, etc.) and disturb the other passengers. Will a vet here prescribe medication, maybe a mild sedative, to help keep her calm on the flight? Any advice would be helpful. |
As for medication, I suggest you call and talk with an EXCELLENT vet and not just any ole vet. Dr. Kwon in Itaewon is good or call home and talk to the vets there to see what they suggest. Anyway, you should not need to give medications to your animal if they have been crate trained before you leave. If your dog can't even stand five minutes in a crate without going bazerk, you've got a problem. Get the crate, put in a blanket, a few toys and treats and the dog will get cozy without shutting the door. Then they get use to the idea and it's a safe 'den' for them. So shutting the door becomes no big deal and they get comfortable. It would be cruel of you to load your dog up on drugs and force them into a small cage on a plane for long periods of time if you have not crate trained and got them use to the carrier.
Oh, and if this ride is 15-20 hours, that's a long time for them to 'hold it.' Rather than have that all over the cage, you might want to consider a "dog diaper." But I would never test that out for the first time on the plane. Try it at home with supervision first. |
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SuperHero
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| Vicissitude wrote: |
| I'd be more worried about the people in the cabin than some small puppie. |
allergies - dogs cats and other animals make me violently ill for about 2 days after being in enclosed spaces with them for more than 2 hours. |
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plus99
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| im allergic to cats. lasts about 20 minutes after exposure. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:49 am Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| I'd be more worried about the people in the cabin than some small puppie. |
allergies - dogs cats and other animals make me violently ill for about 2 days after being in enclosed spaces with them for more than 2 hours. |
I'm really sorry to hear that, but I'm willing to bet that you've already been on flights with pets that are in the cabin or they've been in the same cabin right before your flight. NO?! Absolutely!!! Either that or you've been on plenty of flights with pet dander in the cabin because it's all over people and their clothes if they have pets.
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Cabin Safety-Pets in the Cabin Frequently Asked Questions
Are there any airlines that do not allow pets to travel in the passenger cabin?
Some airlines do not allow any pets to travel in the cabin. You can call the airline you are traveling on to find out if they allow pets in the passenger cabin.
Can I be sure that there will be no animals on my flight if an airline does not allow pets in the cabin?
No, you can�t be sure. The Department of Transportation (DOT) has rules (14 CFR part 382) (PDF) that require airlines to allow passengers to fly with their service animals in the cabin on all U.S. airlines. Service animals are not pets. They are working animals that assist persons with disabilities. There is no limit to the number of service animals that can be on any flight. Service animals do not need any health certificates to travel and they do not need to be confined in a container or cage.
How do I find out if an airline allows pets to travel in the passenger cabin and what their policies and procedures are?
You can find out what the specific policies and procedures are for each airline in several ways. You can call the airlines� reservations line and get information from the agent who takes your call. You can also look at an airline�s website to get information about their policies for traveling with pets.
I have severe allergies to pet dander. How can I be sure that there is no pet dander on my flight?
You will still be exposed to pet dander on every flight, even without any pets in the passenger cabin. This is because most allergens are carried into the cabin on the clothes of other passengers.
Then what should I do if I am allergic to pet dander, but I need to fly?
First, you can reduce the chance that there will be an animal in the cabin on your flight. You can fly on an airline that does not allow pets in the cabin. You can also ask the reservations agent for your airline if another passenger on the same flight has made reservations to travel with a pet. You should also check with your allergist or doctor before your trip to discuss travel related risks and ask if you should carry medications with you. If a reaction should occur during the flight, follow your doctor�s treatment instructions and ask a flight attendant for assistance.
What are the FAA rules regarding traveling with pets in the passenger cabin?
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) allows each airline to decide if they will allow you to travel with your pet in the passenger cabin. If an airline does allow you to bring your pet into the cabin, we consider your pet container to be carry-on baggage and you must follow all carry on baggage rules (14 CFR part 121, section 121.589):
Your pet container must be small enough to fit underneath the seat without blocking any person�s path to the main aisle of the airplane.
Your pet container must be stowed properly before the last passenger entry door to the airplane is closed in order for the airplane to leave the gate.
Your pet container must remain properly stowed the entire time the airplane is moving on the airport surface, and for take off and landing.
You must follow flight attendant instructions regarding the proper stowage of your pet container.
What kind of general procedures do most airlines have in place?
If an airline allows you to travel with your pet in the cabin, you must follow all FAA regulations. Usually, most airlines have additional policies and procedures for you to follow to make sure that the flight is comfortable for all passengers on the airplane. These additional procedures may include
A limited list of the types of pets that you can bring into the cabin
A limit on the number of pets in the cabin
A limit on the number of pets that may accompany you on the airplane
A requirement that your pet be harmless, inoffensive and odorless
A requirement that your pet remain in the container for the entire flight
A requirement that you be able to produce a recently issued health certificate for your pet
Where can I go to get more information about traveling with pets in the passenger cabin?
You can get more information about traveling with your pet from the following:
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teachergirltoo
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| You will have no problem with your dog travel. I have two that I travel back and forth with. If you are going with Korean Air they will allow a small dog in the main cabin if it and the carrier (preferably sherpa bag) weigh no more than 11lbs. However, they never weighed mine so I wouldn't stress too much if you are a few ounces over. They are extremely nice. Go to PETRAVEL.COM and it is loaded with the airline info and just about anything else you need to know. My second dog that travels in the cargo wears a parka also along with a big blanket in his crate. I have tried and tried to crate train them so they are calm about the whole procedure but it never works (they lean more toward the beserk mindset), so I have a wonderful vet that packages specific dosages of ACE for each of them. They start getting it two hours BEFORE heading off to the airport in the taxi (they ride to the airport uncrated). When we arrive at the airport they get their second dose just as we are loading the plane. I carry a weiner in my bag that I put the ACE into so they are looking forward to the treat. The ACE will not put them out but does relax them for a couple hours so that the engines and other noises aren't as bad. On the other end they are extremely anxious to get out of their carriers but they are fine and not traumatized at all. Korean Air will allow you to wait until the last minute to check your dogs so that you can take them outside for a final walk or pee time. Don't give your dog any water two hours before the flight. Mine have held their pee on their flights of 15 hours no problem. Anyways, hope this helps. |
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JamesFord
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: my personal playground
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| teachergirltoo wrote: |
| You will have no problem with your dog travel. I have two that I travel back and forth with. If you are going with Korean Air they will allow a small dog in the main cabin if it and the carrier (preferably sherpa bag) weigh no more than 11lbs. However, they never weighed mine so I wouldn't stress too much if you are a few ounces over. They are extremely nice. Go to PETRAVEL.COM and it is loaded with the airline info and just about anything else you need to know. My second dog that travels in the cargo wears a parka also along with a big blanket in his crate. I have tried and tried to crate train them so they are calm about the whole procedure but it never works (they lean more toward the beserk mindset), so I have a wonderful vet that packages specific dosages of ACE for each of them. They start getting it two hours BEFORE heading off to the airport in the taxi (they ride to the airport uncrated). When we arrive at the airport they get their second dose just as we are loading the plane. I carry a weiner in my bag that I put the ACE into so they are looking forward to the treat. The ACE will not put them out but does relax them for a couple hours so that the engines and other noises aren't as bad. On the other end they are extremely anxious to get out of their carriers but they are fine and not traumatized at all. Korean Air will allow you to wait until the last minute to check your dogs so that you can take them outside for a final walk or pee time. Don't give your dog any water two hours before the flight. Mine have held their pee on their flights of 15 hours no problem. Anyways, hope this helps. |
I'd hate to be your dog.
I wonder if this is how superfly flies? |
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