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Colin Powell Could Impact Nov's Outcome...
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Colin Powell Could Impact Nov's Outcome... Reply with quote

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WASHINGTON (CNN) � Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican who served under President Bush, said Friday he may not back the GOP presidential nominee in November, telling CNN that �I am keeping my options open at the moment.�

�I have voted for members of both parties in the course of my adult life,� Powell, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told CNN�s Wolf Blitzer. �And as I said earlier, I will vote for the candidate I think can do the best job for America, whether that candidate is a Republican, a Democrat, or an Independent.�

Powell also offered praise for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, calling him an �exciting person on the political stage...


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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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�I will ultimately vote for the person I believe brings to the American people the kind of vision the American people want to see for the next four years,� he said. �A vision that reaches out to the rest of the world, that starts to restore confidence in America, that starts to restore favorable ratings to America. Frankly, we've lost a lot in recent years.�



Ouch! I'll bet Bush didn't like to hear that.

Powell carries a lot of weight. This reads like an endorsement of Obama. Hmmm...Obama/Powell. That could be an interesting ticket. Military and diplomatic experience Obama lacks. Bipartisan/biracial unity theme. Nightmares for the Klan.
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How fucking cool is it going to be to have the first black president of the united states in 2009? that is, if his plane doesn't accidently crash, or he doesn't have a heart attack, or he doesn't get shot.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Powell has always been a very smart man.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Colin Powell Could Impact Nov's Outcome... Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
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WASHINGTON (CNN) � Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican who served under President Bush, said Friday he may not back the GOP presidential nominee in November, telling CNN that �I am keeping my options open at the moment.�

�I have voted for members of both parties in the course of my adult life,� Powell, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told CNN�s Wolf Blitzer. �And as I said earlier, I will vote for the candidate I think can do the best job for America, whether that candidate is a Republican, a Democrat, or an Independent.�

Powell also offered praise for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, calling him an �exciting person on the political stage...


CNN Reports


I wonder which Independent he had in mind, perhaps one not yet so declared?
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Powell won't endorse Obama or run with him. Get real. I'd even venture to guess he won't endorse anyone this time around. Sure he said a couple of nice words about Obama, but it doesn't mean much. It very well could have been a direct question he was asked by a reporter and he was being polite.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
How *beep* cool is it going to be to have the first black president of the united states in 2009? that is, if his plane doesn't accidently crash, or he doesn't have a heart attack, or he doesn't get shot.


Dude, don't even say that kind of shit. C'mon.
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
How *beep* cool is it going to be to have the first black president of the united states in 2009? that is, if his plane doesn't accidently crash, or he doesn't have a heart attack, or he doesn't get shot.


Dude, don't even say that kind of *beep*. C'mon.


Well, history tends to repeat itself, and people who turn over the applecart don't tend to fair too well.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would love to see Obama running come November.

But I really think the powers-that-be point towards Hiliary Clinton.

If the race remains as close as it is, it's really going to come down to pulling the right strings, and the Clintons know all the right strings to pull.
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stevemcgarrett



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Powell won't take any VP spot. His wife comes first and she's been clinically depressed for more than a decade.

I'd be surprised if he publicly endorsed anyone although by not mentioning McCain he seems to be distancing himself from that prospect.

Look for McCain to choose Lieberman to pull away conservative Dems, depending on the eventual nominee of that party. Or he might turn to a Southern governor with a clear stand on conservative hot button issues.

If it goes down to the wire and then to the convention, Bill will pull every string, even G-strings, with Hillary tugging with him.

Chelsea might even be asked to do lap dances for conventioneers. (Now, that's not nice, Steve.)

If Iraq fades as a hot-button issue and Clinton is perceived as one who will tax and spend, avoiding a viable solution to the illegal immigrant problem, you can bet McCain would win.

If Obama wins the nomination, it's a whole new ball game. Could be a contrast similar to the Eisenhower and Kennedy atmosphere, although McCain is no Nixon by a long shot.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
Kuros wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
How *beep* cool is it going to be to have the first black president of the united states in 2009? that is, if his plane doesn't accidently crash, or he doesn't have a heart attack, or he doesn't get shot.


Dude, don't even say that kind of *beep*. C'mon.


Well, history tends to repeat itself, and people who turn over the applecart don't tend to fair too well.


As far as I can tell, the people who own the applecart are supporting Obama. Or at least some of them anyway.

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Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Zbigniew Brzezinski, one of the most influential foreign-policy experts in the Democratic Party, threw his support behind Barack Obama's presidential candidacy, saying the Illinois senator has a better global grasp than his chief rival, Hillary Clinton.

Obama ``recognizes that the challenge is a new face, a new sense of direction, a new definition of America's role in the world,'' Brzezinski said in an interview on Bloomberg Television's ``Political Capital with Al Hunt.''



You can bet that if there is a shadowy cabal running America and deciding who lives and dies, ol' Zig is sitting right near the center of the table.

http://tinyurl.com/25gtsr
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
If it goes down to the wire and then to the convention, Bill will pull every string, even G-strings, with Hillary tugging with him.

Chelsea might even be asked to do lap dances for conventioneers. (Now, that's not nice, Steve.)


Yeah Steve, given the latest comments from the media you can only imagine where that's going to lead. But since you are not a reporter you are probably safe. I don't think there is big enough rock for that guy at MSMBC to hide under right now. Come to think of it, if I were him, I'd get a large anchor, a rope and find a very deep river.


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thepeel



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a threat of assassination. the NPR show Talk of the Nation discussed it in great detail a few weeks back.

And it seems that the government takes it seriously enough.
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WASHINGTON - The Secret Service said Thursday that Sen. Barack Obama was being placed under their protection, the earliest ever for a presidential candidate.

Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff authorized Obama�s protection after consultations with the congressional advisory committee.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18474444/

The Secret Service has kept the most hated man on earth alive for the past 7 years and I'm quite sure they can keep any white/islamic supremacists at bay and keep Mr. Obama alive and safe.


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caniff



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
I don't think there is big enough rock for that guy at MSMBC to hide under right now. Come to think of it, if I were him, I'd get a large anchor, a rope and find a very deep river.


Amazingly poor judgement to use the expression "pimping out" in regards to the Clintons and Chelsea. I'm sure the fall-out would have been greatly reduced if he had re-worded his comment to perhaps "....the Clintons have pressed Chelsea into service contacting celebrities and superdelegates..", or something along those lines.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
How *beep* cool is it going to be to have the first black president of the united states in 2009? that is, if his plane doesn't accidently crash, or he doesn't have a heart attack, or he doesn't get shot.


A black president per se?

Call me terribly old-fashioned, but surely ideas and ability are more important than melanin?

I'm an Obama supporter, but not because of melanin.
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