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da_moler
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| mateomiguel wrote: |
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| Why is anyone in Korean interested in Russian girls when we are surrounded by Korean girls??? |
u may be surrounded by them but they giggle and run away when you do anything besides making eye contact. |
Really? Where do you meet girls like that? It certainly hasn't been my experience. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Had unprotected sex with a Russian prostitute once. Man that was a mistake.  |
Why? What happened? Did you dik fall off? |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Definetely a lot more Russians around Itaewon most nights now.
Makes things interesting. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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My ex wife of 8 years is Russian. She lives stateside with our son. I've known many other men who have had Russian wives and communicated my experiences on message boards in the past so I know I am not an isolated incident. Also my wife was always associating with other Russians who lived wherever we did so I began to notice some consistencies. Rather there seems to be a reason why Russian women are rated as the worst the world over as potential wives. Here are my observations:
1. Russians lived in a communist/socialist government most of their lives. Granted it was grossy mismanaged most of the time, but it has left them with a prevading sense of entitlement or at least the attitude that it is someone's responsibility to take care of their every need. So if you think that dating/marrying a Russian woman is going to be a sweet ride of sensual bliss keep the afforementioned in mind.
2. Russians have no sense of social restraint. They will be compelled to spontaneous, loud outbursts of protest and not restricted to substantial matters. You will find that she is capable of verbal diatribes over even the silliest inconveniences with total strangers. And since she is the weaker sex...you guessed it...you'll be left to sort out the mess with the 250 lb biker babe and her "old man" that are ready to throw a chain around your neck.
3. Koreans basically know that their culture is not superior to others but their sense of nationalism will never allow them to admit anything but that it is the forerunner of cultural evolution.
Russians on the other hand know and admit that their culture has been, is currently, and will probaly forever be whacked, but they consistently will live their lives as if it is the greatest human construct of the past 5000 years. They are probably the most reisitant to crossing cultural boundaries and the most walled in when they go to live in another culture. If you live with or marry one your house will soon become a miniature museum of what is wrong with Russians' ideas of color coordination with regards to interior decorating and anything with a western flair will be replaced with something as imposing as a Egyptian sarcophagus.
4. Russian culture is jackhammer annoying and I say that from the perspective of a person who really tried viciously to live with and accept most aspects of it. Everything form the rip off versions of western music to the idiotic tabloid rags that your inlaws will make sure your family has an ample monthly supply of will grate on your resolve day after day.
5. Russians have some unique ideas regarding homeopathic remedies and things which can become major obstacles to your family's success or even survival for that matter. Case in point - my mother in law told my wife that there was a new and successful method of restoring vitality to a woman's hair and she had to do it immediately. Well, seems like no problem until you learn that it involves your wife soaking her hair in her own urine for 30 minutes and then not washing it for the next 24 hours. I almost called it quits with this one but at that it was nearing the 6th year of our 8 year marriage and we were beginning to experience stress anyway.
6. Beware the mother-in-law. Russians don't typically view marriage arrangements the same way we do in the west. In our culture the husband becomes the guardian and principal legal beneficiary of the wife with regards to matters within their lives. When you marry a Russian you are viewed as little more than a sugar daddy by their families. To them, you and your authority in everything from financial matters to the raising of children can be usurped if they so deem that their opinions and ideas are better. Well, then your wife can just tell them off right? Family ties are a little different between ethnic Russians as you will discover should you proceed despite warnings.
7. Russian women are clever as they come and won't hesitate to use deprivation of sex as a weapon when they don't get their way, which in your relationship will probably be 98% of the time because their requests will be absurd in equal frequency.
I know there might be lots of people on here that will immediately say that I am generalizing and stereotyping. Years ago I visited a message board/forum where I read the stories of men who had been peviously married to Russian women. After I read about 10 of the hundereds of stories on the site it was errily as if I could have written them myself word for word.
If you want ot date a Russian woman go right ahead but I will only say that you have been warned. Be blissfully optimistic if you must but first do yourself a favor and go check out some websites that are contributed by people who have dated/married Russian women and compare their stories to mine.
If I were to post a pic of my wife online (I don't have one currently so don't ask) you couldn't chide her appearence. SHe belonged on the cover of a magazine. But trust me after my experience if I had the chance to date another Russian woman twice as beautiful as her (if it were possible) I wouldn't ever in a million years. Too mch heartache and trouble. I say leave the Russians to the Russians.
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plus99
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
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are there actually russian girls here? im too drunk to read this thread. not that id read it if i wasnt drunk.  |
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caniff
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xingyiman, that was a good read. Not to laugh at your travails, but there was some humor in there.
I've met guys who also had married Russian women. Their reports were pretty similar. I'm sure they're some who are absolute gems, but from what I have heard their does seem to be a pattern. |
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dogbert
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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| A lot of non-Russian men think they can handle Russian women ... at first. |
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plus99
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| did someone say something about the word "broads" not being classy? i dont think any real woman would have a problem with that |
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samd
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I just saw five of the hottest women I've ever seen tonight. They got on the subway at Cheonho, all tall, slim, well dressed, nice clothes, tasteful makeup, and they all seemed to be speaking Russian. Either Russian or something similar.
I've never seen stares like it, and every second Korean was on their phone talking about them. Quite funny, and I was tempted to ride past my stop just to see where they were going... |
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caniff
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| JAD would have been fascinated. |
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Suwon23
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I certainly don't have as much experience with this as you, Xingyiman, but I did date a russian girl for over three years, so I thought I might compare notes. Maybe it will be helpful for readers.
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| Russians [have] a prevading sense of entitlement or at least the attitude that it is someone's responsibility to take care of their every need. |
I never noticed that, but that may be because my girlfriend was younger and was only a child during the CCCP. I think for the younger crowd this one can be ignored. A Russian girlfriend will always have a sense of entitlement, mind you, but it may not be thanks to Communism.
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| Russians ... consistently will live their lives as if [Russian culture] is the greatest human construct of the past 5000 years. They are probably the most reisitant to crossing cultural boundaries and the most walled in when they go to live in another culture. |
Amen. Russians are patriotic to the point of chauvinism. They are very cliquish (in my experience in America), and fiercely proud of everything Russian. When it come to blind patriotism, they are worse than even us Americans. My personal favorite Russian belief is that WWII was a war fought exclusively between Russia and Germany. If you mention the Western Front or the Pacific Theater they will look at you like you're crazy.
In general I think most people will be fine dating a Russian (though I cannot comment on marrying one), so long as they know what they're getting into. You must appreciate Russian culture, because you will be in bed with it whether you like it or not. Russian girls are super sweet and cute when they want to be and super catty and superior the rest of the time. It can be fun, but proceed at your own risk. |
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Paddycakes
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| 7. Russian women are clever as they come and won't hesitate to use deprivation of sex as a weapon when they don't get their way, which in your relationship will probably be 98% of the time because their requests will be absurd in equal frequency. |
That's all women, my friend. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| 7. Russian women are clever as they come and won't hesitate to use deprivation of sex as a weapon when they don't get their way, which in your relationship will probably be 98% of the time because their requests will be absurd in equal frequency. |
That's all women, my friend. |
You've obviouly never dated or been married to a Russian. My wife now never withholds it from me. Yes lots of women can be good at this but unless you've experienced the intensity of the effects of dealing with a Russian then go date one then come back and make your argument. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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| Suwon23 wrote: |
I certainly don't have as much experience with this as you, Xingyiman, but I did date a russian girl for over three years, so I thought I might compare notes. Maybe it will be helpful for readers.
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| Russians [have] a prevading sense of entitlement or at least the attitude that it is someone's responsibility to take care of their every need. |
I never noticed that, but that may be because my girlfriend was younger and was only a child during the CCCP. I think for the younger crowd this one can be ignored. A Russian girlfriend will always have a sense of entitlement, mind you, but it may not be thanks to Communism.
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| Russians ... consistently will live their lives as if [Russian culture] is the greatest human construct of the past 5000 years. They are probably the most reisitant to crossing cultural boundaries and the most walled in when they go to live in another culture. |
Amen. Russians are patriotic to the point of chauvinism. They are very cliquish (in my experience in America), and fiercely proud of everything Russian. When it come to blind patriotism, they are worse than even us Americans. My personal favorite Russian belief is that WWII was a war fought exclusively between Russia and Germany. If you mention the Western Front or the Pacific Theater they will look at you like you're crazy.
In general I think most people will be fine dating a Russian (though I cannot comment on marrying one), so long as they know what they're getting into. You must appreciate Russian culture, because you will be in bed with it whether you like it or not. Russian girls are super sweet and cute when they want to be and super catty and superior the rest of the time. It can be fun, but proceed at your own risk. |
I think the entitlement attitude is something definitley resulting from the communist era but passed from the parents to the current generation. It will probably lessen with succeeding generations.
Your observations about the culture are right on. What most guys need to realize is that, kept at arms distance the Russian women could be fine as a casual GF but keep in mind the world will change when you "up the ante". It's one thing to pay lip service to "appreciating" Russian culture but another to actually attempt it when it's being forced on you as if someone were pouring hot wax down your throat while youre head's in a vise. Russian culture is as I said Jackhammer annoying and quite unpalpitable to most western tastes. They will not relent either.
Also a person needs to realize that a considerable number of Russin women are fierce opportunists and never fully commit emotionally to the relationship. They tend to use a guy for all he's worth(fiscally speaking) and then dump them when opportunity comes knocking. If you can accept this and just keep yourself in the position regroup in a similar fashion when the time comes then you might be ok. It all seems like too much trouble though and everyone runs the risk of getting to emotionally wrapped up and hurt when the walls come tumbling down.
Listen to my experience speak....eye candy will become nothing more than an empty wrapper if you become serious with or attached to an opportunistic woman. The Russians are geared in that manner by their culture moreso than others I would argue.
Most of the guys that I know of that were married to drop dead gorgeous Russian gals eventually found a good relationship with a no so stunning average gal that was willing to treat them well. |
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Suwon23
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| xingyiman wrote: |
| ...a considerable number of Russin women are fierce opportunists and never fully commit emotionally to the relationship. They tend to use a guy for all he's worth(fiscally speaking) and then dump them when opportunity comes knocking. |
It may be true that this is especially common among Russians (the same thing happened to me), but it probably isn't. All women are like that, or seem like it after one or two awful experiences. Remember, women say the same thing about us, which always bugs the crap out of me. I don't know your situation, but from here it seems like there's some well-earned animosity that could be coloring your vision.
That said, I still agree that dating a Russian woman is something that should be done with great caution, perhaps only by trained professionals or fans of sugary pop music. With all the Russian hookers in Korea, a fella without an Asian fetish can still get his fill of vertical vagina. |
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