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mccain cannot be president!
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Justin Hale



Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:

The only other choice is Huckbee and he unfortunately only appeals to evengelical Republicans. While I personally wouldn't vote for McCain, I would consider Huckabee.


A contemptible position.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistermasan wrote:
the eligibility of who can be president is spelled out in the constitution: "No Person except a natural born...". kinda hard to see where being born in panama makes one native of the US.


By definition in the citizenship law that pertains both at the time the man was born and now.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Hale wrote:
Milwaukiedave wrote:

The only other choice is Huckbee and he unfortunately only appeals to evengelical Republicans. While I personally wouldn't vote for McCain, I would consider Huckabee.


A contemptible position.


Why? Because I would vote for Huckabee over McCain? Obama is clearly my first choice, but if I had to come up with a second it would be Huckabee.

Talk about a dumb comment.
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The_Conservative



Joined: 15 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
mistermasan wrote:
please address the topic of the post and not the poster.


Most people stay on topic on this board as little as possible. I wish I had a link to the thread I started a week ago or so where IGTG spammed a bunch of off-topic stuff.

Given the fact that the Republicans are going to nominate him, I have to ask yet again why people aren't doing more to stop him.



Stop who? McCain or IGTG? Laughing
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TC...I was talking about McCain. I think IGTG is on a unscheduled vacation.
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Pluto



Joined: 19 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McCain said he would lower the corporate tax rate 10% and permanently do away with taxes on dividends and capital gains. Music to my ears. Cool

Ronald Reagan's National Security Adviser, Robert McFarlane, wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal this weekend.

Here it is

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The Right Is Wrong on McCain
By ROBERT MCFARLANE
February 9, 2008; Page A8

There's an old Groucho Marx riff in which he launches a new career as a stick-up artist -- while worrying that his native cowardice may not induce the requisite fear among his victims. Sure enough, after a little time in a dark alley he springs out to confront his first victim, points his gun to his own head and says, "Take one step closer and I'll kill myself."

Such is the posture today among pundits on the far right of the Republican Party as Sen. John McCain moves closer to receiving his party's nomination. Consider the destructive implications of their pledge to work against Mr. McCain's nomination and even -- in the event he is nominated -- not to vote in the general election. Start with where it would leave our country -- presumably under the leadership of either Democrat candidate -- in the two domains where we will face critical challenges in the years ahead: our national security and the threat of an economic meltdown.
[Rush Limbaugh]

Notwithstanding the reversal of trends in Iraq of a year ago, we face a long and difficult struggle in the war to turn back the nihilistic crusade being waged by radical Islam. By my reckoning after 25 visits to Pakistan, over a half-million adolescents willing to blow themselves up have "graduated" from more than 1,000 Wahabbist madrassas in that country.

Both Afghanistan and Pakistan are on the threshold of sinking into violent chaos as failed states unless new, experienced American leadership can conceive and launch an effective strategy -- and convince allies to join in its execution -- to turn matters around and cut off the Taliban and al Qaeda at their roots. Such a victory is feasible under competent leadership by introducing a classical counterinsurgency strategy.

Concurrent with the conflict on the battlefield, the new administration must tackle the complex task of fostering long-term economic and political stability in these forlorn countries. Here again, such a strategy is complex but not difficult to conceive. Its successful execution is only imaginable, however, in the hands of a knowledgeable, experienced leader -- who enjoys respect among allies -- who will be sorely needed to win this struggle.

Clearly John McCain fits the bill. To choose anyone without the vital knowledge, experience and leadership skills for this role is to invite disaster.

The nonmilitary cost and impact of these national security challenges form a natural segue to consideration of major economic challenges we must overcome in the years ahead. Today we are spending more than $300 billion annually to purchase foreign oil. It is well known that some of that money is passed on to al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. Indeed, it is fair to say that we are funding both sides in this war.

We spend $500 billion each year on our military forces. One of their most vital missions is to protect the flow of Persian Gulf oil which fuels the global economy. The disruption of those oil flows -- such as by terrorists disabling a major Saudi processing terminal -- would bring down economies throughout the industrialized world.

Here again, one can conceive a strategy for neutralizing this threat. It involves moving urgently to introduce a profoundly different national energy policy designed to do the following:

- Provide market-based incentives to justify the essential re-tooling of our automobile industry to enable it to produce flexible-fuel, plug-in hybrid electric cars and trucks, using carbon composite materials (as Boeing is doing in the new 787 airliner);

- Accelerate the commercial production of cellulosic ethanol, butanol and other bio-fuels; and

- License new nuclear power plants.

In addition to the aforementioned challenges, our next president must prevent the spread of nuclear weapons by any of the more than 40-plus nations that are capable of that step within five to 10 years. Of course we must also prevent terrorist groups from gaining access to nuclear materials -- not a task for someone learning on the job.

Surely Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter can agree that these challenges are terribly demanding and cannot be left to luck or divine providence. Finally, there is the cost of their extremist rhetoric to the Republican Party. As President Reagan once told me, "Going over the cliff, flags flying, is still going over the cliff."

Mr. McFarlane served as President Reagan's national security adviser.

See all of today's editorials and op-eds, plus video commentary, on Opinion Journal.

And add your comments to the Opinion Journal forum.
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