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Busan is a really nice place
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EricaSmile84 wrote:
I like pools better.


Yeah, uhmmm, you're probably not gonna wanna go into those either, Erica.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Busan was odd in that it was the Korea I know, ie Seoul, without quite the large teeming crowds.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Busan too- been there twice now for vacation and enjoyed both visits. Here is my take on it:

Pros:
- nice beaches
- friendlier people (esp. the women, which would be a plus for a young guy like myself)
- nice sights, such as Democracy Park, UN Memorial Cemetary, Busan Museum, etcetera
- close to Japan, making long weekend trips easy and affordable

Cons:
- dirtier downtown (flyers everywhere on the streets)
- seedier nightlife (prostitution is more blatent, even smack in the middle of Seomyeon)
- more stares for being a foreigner (smiles from hot women, as mentioned above, is good, but stares from anyone is an annoyance).
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IconsFanatic



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I lived in Busan for a year. Like everywhere in Korea, it has its pros and cons.

Coming from Vancouver, I chose Busan because it was a decent-sized city, yet not too big (i.e. Seoul)... as well as for the mountains, ocean, being fairly laid-back, etc. Songjung Beach is one of the best-kept secrets of Busan - fabulous! Haeundae, both the beach and the overall area, are fairly boring. There are much more interesting areas in Busan, but we don't tell the tourists. Wink

There's some staring from the locals, but it's not too bad. And yes, the people could be a bit more cosmopolitan, but at least they're not arrogant sobs like many Seoulites are.

I found Busanites to be friendly and have more quality-of-life concerns, whereas Seoulites are a bit obsessed with money, social status, etc. Think California vs. New York. Or Vancouver vs. Toronto. Or Melbourne vs. Sydney. I know where I'd rather be.

And like any country, the national capital (in this case, Seoul) is the least reflective of the "true" nature of a country. Or, put another way: if you've only lived in Seoul, you haven't lived in Korea.

Have to admit that Busan's urban planning is piss poor, but I like having the quaint little traditional houses, alleys with nooks and crannies, etc in a city of four million. My fiance's would-be brother-in-law lives in New Haeundae, one of the newer and supposedly better planned areas of Busan, and it feels rather plastic to me. Not very green. Kind of a half-way mark between traditional Korea and what modern planning should be. Soulless, perhaps?

Mind you, if I ever go back to Korea, I'd probably go for a smaller place for Namhae, or perhaps Jinju as a half-way between Namhae and Busan.

I would never, ever live in Seoul or Gyeonggi-do. Just not my cup of tea. A cracking choice of footie clubs, though. Wink
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IconsFanatic wrote:
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I found Busanites to be friendly and have more quality-of-life concerns, whereas Seoulites are a bit obsessed with money, social status, etc. Think California vs. New York. Or Vancouver vs. Toronto. Or Melbourne vs. Sydney.


I've noticed that and made the same comparison, actually.
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Benicio



Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, most people in Seoul are not from there.
They all move there from their little country towns and join the soulless rat race of Seoul. They become "new money" & all of a sudden they are hot sh*t & full of themselves.
It is dog eat dog as they do not have the same "jeong" with the people around them as they would if they were in their hometowns.
Yes, they are ambitious to make the cash and be a big town success story. In the big city, you don't have to care who you step on to get to the top.
Most Busan people are from here, so there is more of a community spirit.
Yes, Busanites have a reputation for being gruff, but it sure beats the callous "I don't give a f*** about you, I'm gonna get mine" ethic of Seoul. Foreign community included in this.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty funny what you guys are fighting over.
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nateium



Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benicio wrote:


We have the beach, the people are friendlier(foreign community included) and it is so much cheaper.


In Seoul, most of us don't mention the "foreign community" because there isn't one. There are actually enough tolerable locals that one can hang out with Koreans almost exclusively.

Or.... you could meet dozens of random foreigners for the first time every night of the week all year long. It's up to you.

Cass draft is still 2-4,000 for 500cc
Gimpbab is still 1000
Most other stuff is the same as well.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect Bennie is a christian holy-roller who has joined a church in his area. It would explain his weird defense of his local congregation that allows him only one song on Sunday while they sing and dance and laugh at him as he pretends to be zapped by God with the holy spirit.

I mean, c'mon. I may live in Seoul, but I was and am open to the idea that it sucks. Bennie is bent because I said his holy land sucks more (which it does), which I actually know because I have been there several times and I have seen the un-glory.

Bennie, thou art f'ed up. You should re-baptise yourself in the dirty waters until you can save a bird being choked by a plastic bag.

This will be your penance. And also never go back to your mother's basement. Jesus hates that shit.


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Snowmeow



Joined: 03 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me they are pretty similar except for the big event opportunities e.g. major sporting events, American bands performing in Korea and so on. Seoul has that no contest with some rare exceptions. Of course for those rare events you can take a train but it's not the same as living there. For instance the World Championships in my sport are happening Fall 2009 in Seoul metro area and it's a 10 day event. Living there would make attending a lot easier.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



"Busan is GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!! Can't you see me having an orgasm? GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT, I tell ya!!!!!"
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:


"Busan is GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!! Can't you see me having an orgasm? GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT, I tell ya!!!!!"


I've never seen a giant potato spleeg, but I might as well check it.

Fire away, Ying Le..............
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
yingwenlaoshi wrote:


"Busan is GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!! Can't you see me having an orgasm? GREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT, I tell ya!!!!!"


I've never seen a giant potato spleeg, but I might as well check it.

Fire away, Ying Le..............


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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never knew it could be so.........ready-to-serve. Well done.

I just wish Bennie could be here so he could also share in the bounty which you have brought forth.

Oh well. Good night, St. Ying Potato Bastage.
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Benicio



Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet

PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I suspect Bennie is a christian holy-roller who has joined a church in his area. It would explain his weird defense of his local congregation that allows him only one song on Sunday while they sing and dance and laugh at him as he pretends to be zapped by God with the holy spirit.

I mean, c'mon. I may live in Seoul, but I was and am open to the idea that it sucks. Bennie is bent because I said his holy land sucks more (which it does), which I actually know because I have been there several times and I have seen the un-glory.

Bennie, thou art f'ed up. You should re-baptise yourself in the dirty waters until you can save a bird being choked by a plastic bag.

This will be your penance. And also never go back to your mother's basement. Jesus hates that *beep*.


The most entertaining thing I've read today, Caniff!
It was actually pretty funny.

Well, you think Seoul is better than Busan.
I think Busan is better than Seoul.
Not sure what a church would have to do with that, but so be it.

So we are both willing to admit that both cities have some good things and some sh*tty things- just some of one more than the other.

Anyway, I lumped you into the group of people who thinks Seoul is the center of the universe. Maybe you are not. If you like it, fine!

I'm not really sure why I get so annoyed when people think the city they are from or the the one they transplanted to is the center of the universe- Seoul, Toronto, L.A., London, etc.
I know full well that Busan is not the center of anything and neither is Seoul. I do know that I've enjoyed living in Busan much more than I ever did in Seoul.
Enjoy your Seoul! I won't.
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