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Kuros
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
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| How *beep* cool is it going to be to have the first black president of the united states in 2009? that is, if his plane doesn't accidently crash, or he doesn't have a heart attack, or he doesn't get shot. |
A black president per se?
Call me terribly old-fashioned, but surely ideas and ability are more important than melanin?
I'm an Obama supporter, but not because of melanin. |
Well, Christopher Hitchens, here in America it would really mean something if a black became President. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:36 am Post subject: |
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What I like about Obama (or one of the things) is that he deeply and genuinely loves his wife. This oozes out of his book. I trust a man who can be trusted by his wife.
That said, I disagree with him on much policy. But I respect the guy quite a bit. |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| I don't see a problem with supporting Obama both for his policies and his skin color. A black man as President of the US goes a long way to healing the racial divide in this country, or so I hope. If anyone has a better idea as to how that might be done chime away. |
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bucheon bum
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Czarjorge wrote: |
| A black man as President of the US goes a long way to healing the racial divide in this country, or so I hope. If anyone has a better idea as to how that might be done chime away. |
rather superficial don't you think? |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| rather superficial don't you think? |
America? Yes, unfortunately it often is.
Of course I love the place, warts and all, but we are left with a set of choices that cannot help but be divisive along gender and racial lines.
It's shaping up to be pretty dramatic. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| rather superficial don't you think? |
I don't think it's superficial at all. It will help spur a 'cultural revolution' in the broken parts of the black community when a well-educated, well-spoken black man, devoted to his family finally takes the top spot. |
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caniff
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When I said "divisive", I meant potentially divisive. I really hope that if Obama is elected that it will have the opposite effect.
I get a little cynical about that prospect because of how nasty political campaigns have become in recent history. OTOH, there could be some national healing that could result in a more cohesive and strong country.
But again, I find it a little difficult not to be cynical about the prospects. I hope I'm wrong, regardless of the outcome of the election. |
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caniff
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| [. Military and diplomatic experience Obama lacks. . |
I read that and hear Yoda.  |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Yoda is MUCH to short to ever become president in the modern world. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| caniff wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| rather superficial don't you think? |
America? Yes, unfortunately it often is.
Of course I love the place, warts and all, but we are left with a set of choices that cannot help but be divisive along gender and racial lines.
It's shaping up to be pretty dramatic. |
I meant in regards to the healing bit, not the fact that there are gender and racial lines (although yes, those are superficial as well obviously). |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| caniff wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| rather superficial don't you think? |
America? Yes, unfortunately it often is.
Of course I love the place, warts and all, but we are left with a set of choices that cannot help but be divisive along gender and racial lines.
It's shaping up to be pretty dramatic. |
I meant in regards to the healing bit, not the fact that there are gender and racial lines (although yes, those are superficial as well obviously). |
I'm most curious about the small effects it would have around the world, in places like hagwons for example. Suddenly any prospective black teacher isn't 'Africa teacher' anymore, he's the interviewee that most resembles the president of the US. That's what I would find most interesting. |
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stevemcgarrett
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thepeel noted:
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| What I like about Obama (or one of the things) is that he deeply and genuinely loves his wife. This oozes out of his book. I trust a man who can be trusted by his wife. |
So, then you must trust G. W. Bush (and his father) as well, eh? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
thepeel noted:
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| What I like about Obama (or one of the things) is that he deeply and genuinely loves his wife. This oozes out of his book. I trust a man who can be trusted by his wife. |
So, then you must trust G. W. Bush (and his father) as well, eh? |
No. I should have been more clear. It is one of the reasons I think Obama can be trusted as a leader to not be corrupt. Obviously there are other reasons.
Besides, Laura can't trust ol'George. If the only thing standing in between him and his love for booze, blow and broads is Jesus Christ, then she probably isn't sleeping too soundly. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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thepeel wrote:
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| I should have been more clear. It is one of the reasons I think Obama can be trusted as a leader to not be corrupt. |
Still can't muster two sentences that are grammatically correct, can you?
So G. W. Bush doesn't qualify, I see. So what's your excuse for his father? |
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