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regicide



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Denial & Dissociation In USA On The JFK Assassination Reply with quote

"If considered objectively, the acceptance that the Warren
Commission findings were falsified, even in this one area, should lead to questions about the
political succession of the United States that was ratified by the Commission's findings.
Outside the United States one customarily does find such questioning, if not indeed a
complacent cynicism that without either knowledge or curiosity simply assumes guilt on the
part of the U.S. political establishment itself. And yet within the United States there is not only
disinterest but psychological resistance, from the right and left as well as the mainstream, to
examining the question further. As a result there is still little or no institutional will to address
and deal with the highest-level American political crime of this century.
Instead the search for the truth has been left, by default, to a small band of self-selected
critics, usually derided as "buffs" or "assassinologists." These, often disagreeing among
themselves, have certainly failed to produce a generally persuasive alternative account of how
the President was killed. Indeed their often strident disagreements may have only
strengthened the general impression that the President's murder was a mystery which will
never be solved.
I believe this failure has been an unnecessary one, caused by the tunnel vision of most
critics and their opponents. They have been too fixated on the least answerable question: Who
really killed the President? And they have paid far too little attention to the contextual
question, both more important and paradoxically more easy to answer: What were the
structural defects in governance and society that allowed this huge crime to be so badly
investigated (or, in other terms, to go unpunished)? In simpler words, how could American
institutions harbor and protect such evil?"

- From Peter Dale Scott's Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, 1993.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
These, often disagreeing among
themselves, have certainly failed to produce a generally persuasive alternative account of how
the President was killed.


What else needs to be said?
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regicide



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Quote:
These, often disagreeing among
themselves, have certainly failed to produce a generally persuasive alternative account of how
the President was killed.


What else needs to be said?



You missed the point--as usual. Without that institutional will there can't be a proper--and official investigation. Private researchers disagree because they are thinking for themselves and do not believe every piece of research that is uncovered. If you could think for yourself , you would understand that.

"And yet within the United States there is not only disinterest but psychological resistance, from the right and left as well as the mainstream, to examining the question further. As a result there is still little or no institutional will to address and deal with the highest-level American political crime of this century."
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

regicide wrote:


"And yet within the United States there is not only disinterest but psychological resistance, from the right and left as well as the mainstream, to examining the question further. As a result there is still little or no institutional will to address and deal with the highest-level American political crime of this century."


Didn't they make a movie about it? I thought everyone talked about it and had their own armchair conspiracy theory.
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regicide



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
regicide wrote:


"And yet within the United States there is not only disinterest but psychological resistance, from the right and left as well as the mainstream, to examining the question further. As a result there is still little or no institutional will to address and deal with the highest-level American political crime of this century."


Didn't they make a movie about it? I thought everyone talked about it and had their own armchair conspiracy theory.


75 to 85% percent of the people polled believe there was some kind of conspiracy and "that movie" did indeed spark renewed interest in the matter. But that interest and the implications of it had to be countered by the government propaganda machine.

Countless "Oswald did it" books and movies came out after that.

The question that I have is why? Why does the government continually need to hammer its point home if it is so clear about what happened?

Are four fifths of the American people wrong about what they think? Is the mountain of evidence uncovered by private researchers totally flawed?

Are there magic bullets and do shots that look like they came from the front actually the opposite? Are our eyes are ALL flawed?
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's something really interesting you might be interested in:

Kennedy - Lincoln Similarities

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.

Both were shot in the head.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.

Both were succeeded by Southerners.

Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth,was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald,was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker;

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was ___ Marilyn Monroe.
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regicide



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
Here's something really interesting you might be interested in:

Kennedy - Lincoln Similarities

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.

Both were shot in the head.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.

Both were succeeded by Southerners.

Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth,was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald,was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker;

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was ___ Marilyn Monroe.


Not funny.
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mistermasan



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

plausibile deniability must be maintained at all cost.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
Here's something really interesting you might be interested in:

Kennedy - Lincoln Similarities

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.

Both were shot in the head.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.

Both were succeeded by Southerners.

Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth,was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald,was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker;

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was ___ Marilyn Monroe.


Not funny.


It wasn't meant to be funny. It was meant to be interesting. Have you ever seen so many coincidences before?
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JMO



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on the following scale Regi, how happy would you be if Obama got shot?


1> Semi-erect.
2> Erect.
3> Humping your homemade JFK head model in the exit wound.

People need to know.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
Based on the following scale Regi, how happy would you be if Obama got shot?


1> Semi-erect.
2> Erect.
3> Humping your homemade JFK head model in the exit wound.

People need to know.


After he read huffdaddy's post, the blood stopped flowing to his upper brain and headed south. I'm not sure if he is in any state to answer your question right now. It's hard to stay flaccid when you find out that both successors named Johnson were born 100 years apart.
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regicide



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
JMO wrote:
Based on the following scale Regi, how happy would you be if Obama got shot?


1> Semi-erect.
2> Erect.
3> Humping your homemade JFK head model in the exit wound.

People need to know.


After he read huffdaddy's post, the blood stopped flowing to his upper brain and headed south. I'm not sure if he is in any state to answer your question right now. It's hard to stay flaccid when you find out that both successors named Johnson were born 100 years apart.

Indeed--that was a revelation.

JMO--you are one sick SOB. And you have clearly made new ground in poor taste. Even the piano at Oswald's execution wasn't as bad as this.

While I was going to suspend JFK posts during the election-- as my mother once told me �if you have the name, you may as well play the game" - there is no connection in my backing Obama and his similarities as a candidate to JFK.

But to write that someone would be enthralled by the notion of a man being killed just shows your true colors and shameful way about you. Will you stop at nothing to insult me?

And it is absolutely shameful to think that I or any other conspiracy realist would even have that in the back of his or her mind.

But back to posting� this is actually getting fun because you all are giving me so many reasons to jump back in here. But solely for the purpose of that coup d�etat that Bush Sr knows about, William Buckley knows about and just about anyone in the know during the 60�s and 70�s.

[quote="huffdaddy"][quote="regicide"]
huffdaddy wrote:
It wasn't meant to be funny. It was meant to be interesting. Have you ever seen so many coincidences before?


Well gollee--- no I haven't. I guess that is really interesting (for the umpteenth time) now that you mention it. Thanks Sarge
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, who let them out of the current evens forum? Keep the door closed, or these forums will get polluted too.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

regicide wrote:

Well gollee--- no I haven't. I guess that is really interesting (for the umpteenth time) now that you mention it. Thanks Sarge


Now maybe you know how we feel about all of your assassination threads. If not, I'll continue to drive the point home.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
Even the piano at Oswald's execution wasn't as bad as this.


This one?



Now that's funny.
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