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14 Year-old Girl raped by American Armed Forces Member
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: 14 Year-old Girl raped by American Armed Forces Member Reply with quote

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/02/11/japan.rape/index.html


Just wait. Another storm will brew for teachers.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the use of the words "allegedly" or "accused of" should be included at this point, but from what the G.I. himself said ("I only kissed her") it doesn't look too good for him.

The Okinawans will definitely be up in arms over this one. I assume Japan must have its own hardcore netizen army.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article neither mentions the race of the alleged rapist nor does it post his picture - but the name "Tyrone" is a dead give-away ... Wink

"Diplomatic imunity" is bad enough - I don't think it should be extended to soldiers based in foreign countries. If they are accused of breaking the host country's laws, they should be prosecuted by their legal system (unless they were just following orders from superiors - which is highly unlikely in this instance.)

It shouldn't have much impact in Korea, other than reinforcing stereotypes about foreigners in general - and blacks in particular ...
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is news from Japan. Please put the country in the thread title as not to mislead.

We all know that this type of behavior has been going on in Japan as long as any foreigner has been residing and doing business there. Don't let there bad press negatively affect the situation on the other side of the East Sea.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
If they are accused of breaking the host country's laws, they should be prosecuted by their legal system


When the crime was committed off duty they are prosecuted by the country's legal systems. SOFA covers incarceration until that time.
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems US soldiers do this kind of stuff a lot more in Japan than in Korea. I wonder what the reaction is of your average Japanese person ? Do they go after and blame all foreigners like they do in Korea?
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just wait. Another storm will brew for teachers.


My brain is getting sore from trying to keep track of all the generalizations needed to type that sentence.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
The article neither mentions the race of the alleged rapist nor does it post his picture - but the name "Tyrone" is a dead give-away ... Wink

"Diplomatic imunity" is bad enough - I don't think it should be extended to soldiers based in foreign countries. If they are accused of breaking the host country's laws, they should be prosecuted by their legal system (unless they were just following orders from superiors - which is highly unlikely in this instance.)

It shouldn't have much impact in Korea, other than reinforcing stereotypes about foreigners in general - and blacks in particular ...

What are you on about? US Armed Forces members stationed in Japan do not have diplomatic immunity unless they are attached to the United States Embassy in a position accorded diplomatic status. Otherwise, they are under the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) between the United States and Japan. There are currently a few US servicemembers serving time in Japanese prison.


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crazy_arcade



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okinawans are sick and tired of the U.S.

Unfortunately, the Japanese gov't couldn't really give a rats ass about the Okinawans.
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contrarian



Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Americans should have kept Okinawa after WWII. Just a little object lesson to the Japs.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what would be nice in one of these threads? It would be wonderful if nobody used racial slurs.
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wannago



Joined: 16 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
You know what would be nice in one of these threads? It would be wonderful if nobody used racial slurs.


Oh no, here we go again with what constitutes a racial slur. Why are people so sensitive about this?
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wannago wrote:
Oh no, here we go again with what constitutes a racial slur. Why are people so sensitive about this?


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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy_arcade wrote:
Okinawans are sick and tired of the U.S.



Really? The whole country and not just our soldiers who live there, huh?

That's a little surprising to me. I think Okinawans shouldn't generalize so much.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They should be more tolerant. Maybe some of the Canadian English teachers in Japan could make a trek down to the islands and teach them about multiculturalism.
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