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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject: Japaense are serving Korean food to New Yorkers! |
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I noticed on the article about the fire there's a link to another outrage. New Yorkers are being told Korean food is Japanese!
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200802/200802040013.html
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| Amid a cluster of offices on Third Avenue sits a Japanese restaurant whose signboard greets diners with the words "Gyu-Kaku, Japanese BBQ Dining." As you enter, waiters and waitresses of various ethnic backgrounds African-Americans, Indonesians, Thais and Tibetans shout "Iratshaimase!" ("welcome" in Japan). By 12:30 p.m. all 100 seats are filled. "It's not easy to find empty seats during lunchtime or evening peak time,� says a Tibetan employee. |
AND DARKIES ARE SERVING THE FOOD.
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| At the same hour, a Korean restaurant run by Koreans on 32nd Avenue in Manhattan is full of only Korean customers -- Korean-Americans, representatives of Korean companies and tourists. Worldwide, the popularity of Korean food is growing due to people's perception that it is healthy and to the spread of the Korean Wave. But it is Japanese restaurants that reap the profits. |
Say maybe because when you enter the Japanese place you're welcomed in English but when you enter the Korean joint you're only met by suspicious stares? If you ask for wasbi you're not warned at 100 decibels that its very spicy and whitey can't possibly eat it but you're lucky to get kimchi if you have a white face.
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The number of restaurants selling "Korean" food is growing. But it is foreigners who make the money.
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Geez you mean the American citizen who owns the restaurant is suddenly a foreigner in America because he's not Korean? |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| The number of restaurants selling "Korean" food is growing. But it is foreigners who make the money. |
*sigh* No, Mr. Kim, if I open a "Korean" "restaurant" in my hometown, I'm not a foreigner.
Actually, if I open a Korean restaurant in my hometown, I'm not making money, either. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I could see how it would bother some Koreans, but it's not like the restaurant is claiming it's Japanese food itself. They obviously know it's Korean food, and it's just the ignorance of customers. It's no worse than a Korean-Chinese restaurant here or a restaurant serving pork cutlets in Korea. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Japaense are serving Korean food to New Yorkers! |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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The number of restaurants selling "Korean" food is growing. But it is foreigners who make the money.
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Geez you mean the American citizen who owns the restaurant is suddenly a foreigner in America because he's not Korean? |
Almost as bad as Koreans making money from speaking English |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
| I could see how it would bother some Koreans, but it's not like the restaurant is claiming it's Japanese food itself. They obviously know it's Korean food, and it's just the ignorance of customers. It's no worse than a Korean-Chinese restaurant here or a restaurant serving pork cutlets in Korea. |
Yeah they don't bend over backwards backwards to inform customers pork cutlets are not Korean food but imported from Japan by way of Europe. Or yook hwi (raw beef) is a Mongolian dish, better know as steak tartar in Europe. Or the chili pepper (go chu) is an import from Japan by way of South America by way of European traders...
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| In an ironic twist, the most popular restaurant in my crap-ass town is a Japanese place. Owned by a Korean. Maybe I would write an article about it. |
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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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This crap is hilarious.
I think we can add another to the forged degree list with this writer.
Korean foods are pronounced different in Japanese, thus, it makes sense to have them spelt differently in a Japanese restaurant.
Are there newpaper articles in major papers in Italy exclaiming about the fact that non-Italians are making nasty rip off versions Italian food in Seoul with incorrect names. Jesus, some people suck at life. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| In an ironic twist, the most popular restaurant in my crap-ass town is a Japanese place. Owned by a Korean. Maybe I would write an article about it. |
Seattle half the japanese teriyaki joints were owned by Koreans. |
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IconsFanatic
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Seattle half the japanese teriyaki joints were owned by Koreans. |
Same goes for heaps of Japanese restaurants in Canada. Lacking in "Korean pride"?  |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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This crap is hilarious.
I think we can add another to the forged degree list with this writer.
Korean foods are pronounced different in Japanese, thus, it makes sense to have them spelt differently in a Japanese restaurant.
Are there newpaper articles in major papers in Italy exclaiming about the fact that non-Italians are making nasty rip off versions Italian food in Seoul with incorrect names. Jesus, some people suck at life. |
As I understand it, Italians are generally disgruntled by the worldwide co-opting of their food culture, from pizza to cappucino. I dunno if they write articles in the newspaper about it, but with their government collapsing bi-weekly, their newspapers are probably already pretty busy.
In some ways, especially in the realm of modern culture, Korea and Japan act like two children, with America as their kindly old father who provides love, support and the occasional carpet bombing. Despite his strict discipline, the kids emulate their father and seek his approval. In this case, we have the equivalent of one of the kids stealing the other one's science project and passing it off as his own. |
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nateium
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: Re: Japaense are serving Korean food to New Yorkers! |
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[quote="mindmetoo"]
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The number of restaurants selling "Korean" food is growing. But it is foreigners who make the money.
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More Klogic groupthink. Should Italians get a cut from every Italian food joint in Korea? How about French? Japanese? If it bothers you, find a way to profit from it INDIVIDUALLY!
Too bad Koreans. They stole your ideas. Deal with it. If you [all] can use other cultures ideas for profit, they can use yours too...
Koreans! Welcome to planet Earth!  It's about time you joined us. Thanks for the Kimchi. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: Japaense are serving Korean food to New Yorkers! |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
I noticed on the article about the fire there's a link to another outrage. New Yorkers are being told Korean food is Japanese!
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200802/200802040013.html
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| Amid a cluster of offices on Third Avenue sits a Japanese restaurant whose signboard greets diners with the words "Gyu-Kaku, Japanese BBQ Dining." As you enter, waiters and waitresses of various ethnic backgrounds African-Americans, Indonesians, Thais and Tibetans shout "Iratshaimase!" ("welcome" in Japan). By 12:30 p.m. all 100 seats are filled. "It's not easy to find empty seats during lunchtime or evening peak time,� says a Tibetan employee. |
AND DARKIES ARE SERVING THE FOOD.
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| At the same hour, a Korean restaurant run by Koreans on 32nd Avenue in Manhattan is full of only Korean customers -- Korean-Americans, representatives of Korean companies and tourists. Worldwide, the popularity of Korean food is growing due to people's perception that it is healthy and to the spread of the Korean Wave. But it is Japanese restaurants that reap the profits. |
Say maybe because when you enter the Japanese place you're welcomed in English but when you enter the Korean joint you're only met by suspicious stares? If you ask for wasbi you're not warned at 100 decibels that its very spicy and whitey can't possibly eat it but you're lucky to get kimchi if you have a white face.
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The number of restaurants selling "Korean" food is growing. But it is foreigners who make the money.
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Geez you mean the American citizen who owns the restaurant is suddenly a foreigner in America because he's not Korean? |
Gyu-kaku is a Japanese restaurant (there are lots in Tokyo), that specializes in yaki-niku, which is Japanese bbq. They also serve Korean dishes. Don't see how that is inconsistent... |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Only the menu gives pause: 50 to 80 percent is Korean, be it galbi (roast beef ribs), bibimbap (boiled rice with assorted mixtures), kimchi, japchae (traditional Korean chop suey) namul (seasoned greens) or kupbap (rice served in soup) -- though the names are changed to "karubi," "bibimba", "kimuchi", "chapu che", "namuru" and "kuppa." |
50% - 80% huh? Okay well lets go to their web site and dl their midtown menu:
http://www.gyu-kaku.com/
Check it yourself. First, I notice they have kimchi on the menu and give full props to Korea. The appetizers are half Korean and credit is given. Salads. Nothing Korean. Soups two Korean items. 1/3. No credit given although I guess you could put two and two together. Kimchi = Korean. Tofu chigae might be Korean. The tongue dishes look all Japanese. 0 for 2 there. The Naizso, whatever that is, looks unKorean. The beef we have two kalbi dishes. Alright no credit given to the Koreans. 3 out of the 11 dishes there are Korean. The pork, chicken, and seafood come up zippo. That's 0/12. Veggie dishes 0/20 dishes are Korean.
So? Basically 6 (including the kimchi dishes ID'd as Korean) out of 48+ dishes are Korean. Wow. 50-80%? I thought Koreans were good at math. |
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Yangachi
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| ajgeddes wrote: |
| In an ironic twist, the most popular restaurant in my crap-ass town is a Japanese place. Owned by a Korean. Maybe I would write an article about it. |
Seattle half the japanese teriyaki joints were owned by Koreans. |
Ditto many 'Japanese' restaurants in London. The idea of Koreans complaining about people copying stuff from them is certainly ironic. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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| Only the menu gives pause: 50 to 80 percent is Korean, be it galbi (roast beef ribs), bibimbap (boiled rice with assorted mixtures), kimchi, japchae (traditional Korean chop suey) namul (seasoned greens) or kupbap (rice served in soup) -- though the names are changed to "karubi," "bibimba", "kimuchi", "chapu che", "namuru" and "kuppa." |
50% - 80% huh? Okay well lets go to their web site and dl their midtown menu:
http://www.gyu-kaku.com/
Check it yourself. First, I notice they have kimchi on the menu and give full props to Korea. The appetizers are half Korean and credit is given. Salads. Nothing Korean. Soups two Korean items. 1/3. No credit given although I guess you could put two and two together. Kimchi = Korean. Tofu chigae might be Korean. The tongue dishes look all Japanese. 0 for 2 there. The Naizso, whatever that is, looks unKorean. The beef we have two kalbi dishes. Alright no credit given to the Koreans. 3 out of the 11 dishes there are Korean. The pork, chicken, and seafood come up zippo. That's 0/12. Veggie dishes 0/20 dishes are Korean.
So? Basically 6 (including the kimchi dishes ID'd as Korean) out of 48+ dishes are Korean. Wow. 50-80%? I thought Koreans were good at math. |
Yeah, but the other thing is that the beef itself is mainly Japanese `Kobe` beef (though it says `U.S.` Kobe beef, it is probably just the same style or breed of `wa-gyu` cow raised in the U.S.). Also, Korean bbq is kind of popular in Japan, but it is not exactly the same. For example, the kimchi they eat in Japan (called `kimuchi`) is sweeter and less spicy. The beef is generally of a much better quality too (Japanese cows are famous for their intensely marbled meat), and the overall taste and presentation of the food is different. So it really is `Japanese bbq` no matter how they put it.
Naizo is organ meat btw (intestine, liver, etc.)
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