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carrotpatchkid
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 Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: Got into an accident at High 1... |
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Last week I ended up crashing into a Korean snowboarder and he ended up with a couple of broken ribs. We both had to go to the local hospital for x-rays but he elected to take a 200,000 won ambulance back to his hometown of Daejon for a third opinion. While I'm pretty sure all of the financial responsibility lies with me, I'm not too sure of the law and I don't really want to pay the extra 300,000 won that his hospital visit in Daejon cost.
Has anyone been in a situation like this before or know of someone I can contact? |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope you didn't admit to any fault. |
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DRAMA OVERKILL
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Got into an accident at High 1... |
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| carrotpatchkid wrote: |
Last week I ended up crashing into a Korean snowboarder and he ended up with a couple of broken ribs. We both had to go to the local hospital for x-rays but he elected to take a 200,000 won ambulance back to his hometown of Daejon for a third opinion. While I'm pretty sure all of the financial responsibility lies with me, I'm not too sure of the law and I don't really want to pay the extra 300,000 won that his hospital visit in Daejon cost.
Has anyone been in a situation like this before or know of someone I can contact? |
Yeah, did you admit fault? Details and the specifics of "fault" should have worked out that very day? Following up hospital care in his hometown is understandable, so depending on what was said/agreed upon that particular day, you may be screwed...
I recently had an accident (not my fault). Within hours of the accident the guy and I worked something out - he'd pay a settlement fee (not much - a reasonable and fair amount [no police involved]), and, he'd pay for follow-up care for two weeks at an agreed upon single hospital (outside of that one particular hospital - nothing).
Sorry for the accident, that sucks, but I don't understand why the pair of you didn't work something out before parting. |
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Snowboarding is a dangerous sport. Falls, collisions, chairlifts, cold, obstacles are all risks you take stepping on a mountain.
If you accidentally hit some one, they accepted the risk that that could happen when they set food on the hill. If you are a kind soul and want to help to pay their medical bills, well good for you.
Snowboarding isn't like driving a car, hit some one and pay for it.
Don't get sucked into anything that you aren't legally responsible for. |
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partialtone
Joined: 27 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Rapacious Mr. Batstove wrote: |
Snowboarding is a dangerous sport. Falls, collisions, chairlifts, cold, obstacles are all risks you take stepping on a mountain.
If you accidentally hit some one, they accepted the risk that that could happen when they set food on the hill. If you are a kind soul and want to help to pay their medical bills, well good for you.
Snowboarding isn't like driving a car, hit some one and pay for it.
Don't get sucked into anything that you aren't legally responsible for. |
My thoughts exactly. I've snowboarded the better part of my life back home and have never heard of anyone paying for someone else's medical bills in an accident. The worst I've heard is getting banned from the resort in one extreme situation. |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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While I hope it isn't the case...
He is a foreigner. He crashed into a Korean (actually, it doesn't matter who crashed into whom). The foreigner will probably be screwed. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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what the hell areyou guys talking about.?
he crashed into a guy minding his own business and you are saying
well he knew the risks he should cover his own bills?
so if this guy crashed into a 8 year old girl and almost kills her.
what you just tell the dad "hey buddy them the risks"!
and then ski off!!???
naaaa!! this foreigner crashed into the korean guy and broke his ribs! it was his fault and he admitted it! good thing to BTW!
he should cover his medical costs! its the right thing to do!
turn the tables!how would you feel if the korean did it to you? |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:55 am Post subject: |
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You are royaly screwed. The guy is going to get a Dr to write up as much as possible and charge up the ass.... Looks like your yearly income might be going to cover his medical bills and surgeries if he suddenly requires it. By paying him you already admitted fault. Damn rich foreigners!  |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
what the hell areyou guys talking about.?
he crashed into a guy minding his own business and you are saying
well he knew the risks he should cover his own bills?
so if this guy crashed into a 8 year old girl and almost kills her.
what you just tell the dad "hey buddy them the risks"!
and then ski off!!???
naaaa!! this foreigner crashed into the korean guy and broke his ribs! it was his fault and he admitted it! good thing to BTW!
he should cover his medical costs! its the right thing to do!
turn the tables!how would you feel if the korean did it to you? |
No.
Unless the laws are THAT different here, a skier/boarder cannot be held liable for another's injuries unless he can be proven to be negligent or intentionally violent.
There is an assumed risk associated with sporting activities. Such is the case here, unless the guy was reckless.
If you went to a football game, and the ball came flying at your head and broke your nose, do you think you could sue anyone for medical costs?
Hint: the answer is no to that as well.
And how do YOU know the Korean boarder was 'minding his own business'?
Have you ever seen the way some Koreans 'ski' or 'board'? |
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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There's a Korean phrase "nigh long hwanja"
Which means injury faker or someone stretching the truth about
the extent of their injuries to get more blood money.
It is a very common thing to do here.
2 years ago I had an old lady run in front of my scooter and fall down.
She really tried to take me to the cleaners for her jaywalking mishap and the doctor was taking her side to get his share, too.
Anyway, the guy has a couple of broken ribs, so he is injured.
Taking the 300,000 Won ambulance back to Daejon was excessive and he knows it. He is trying to take you for a ride and he will easily find a doctor to back him up on it.
However, a ski slope accident is not like a car accident.
You should not be held liable for the full extent of his injuries and bills.
Now, there will be plenty of people who will probably try and say that you should "do the right thing" and help this guy out with his medical bills and recovery, but DO NOT get pushed around. Stand your ground.
DO NOT pay for the ambulance ride. DO NOT pay for anything that you feel is above & beyond reason.
He will probably try to get all he can out of you. don't let him! |
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Long ago, used to play rugby in Seoul.
Korean guy on the opposing team ended up with a broken ankle.
There was no fouling, no unruly play- just an accident.
Well, the guy's mom was adamant that our team pay for his medical expenses because, according to her, "we broke his ankle".
I guess he and his team were not responsible at all. She was sure that we were 100% responsible because we were the opposing team.
We tried to explain that no one was to blame because it was not an intentional injury and playing sports carries a risk and injuries happen all the time.
She was having none of it and was getting ready to get the police involved. That's when we decided to get the h*ll out of there.
Just like the ajumma who was jaywalking(running) and ran into me on my scooter, the injured doesn't admit to any responsibility because that would reduce any amount of money they hope to get out of you!
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cuckoo for kimchi
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: somewhere lost in time and space...or korea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
No.
Unless the laws are THAT different here, a skier/boarder cannot be held liable for another's injuries unless he can be proven to be negligent or intentionally violent.
There is an assumed risk associated with sporting activities. Such is the case here, unless the guy was reckless.
If you went to a football game, and the ball came flying at your head and broke your nose, do you think you could sue anyone for medical costs?
Hint: the answer is no to that as well.
And how do YOU know the Korean boarder was 'minding his own business'?
Have you ever seen the way some Koreans 'ski' or 'board'? |
Going skiing for the first time recently (in Korea), I noticed that most people on snow boards spent the majority of their time sitting on their a** blocking the slopes for everyone else. So it's no wonder the OP hit someone......but unfortunately....he might get taken to the cleaners.
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: |
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And how do YOU know the Korean boarder was 'minding his own business'?
Have you ever seen the way some Koreans 'ski' or 'board'? |
Go to the thread on ski slope ettiquette and read the stories of Koreans sitting on the slope, in blind corners, having a smoke.
That's a recipe for disaster!
It's like the ajosshi at Kimpo airport years ago.
He's coming down the escalator and, as soon as he reaches the bottom, bends down to tie his shoe. A young woman is coming down behind him with her big suitcase and this escalator is not stopping. She can't help but run right into the back of him while he is hunched over. It happens and the ajosshi is super p!ssed. He starts yelling at her "How could you run into me? You are so rude!" and a few choice dirty words. She just lowered her head and said "I'm sorry". |
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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| Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Tip to anyone who is dealing with someone they have injured or is accused of injuring:
Unless you really want to fight it, negotiate the payment of "blood money" that day. Do not wait and let them get checked out by another doctor or wait for the follow up to talk about payment.
This situation is where they go to another doctor who they can trust to write up phony ailments and injuries that require large payments and excessive recovery time. This is to greatly increase the amount of blood money. Quite a few doctors are eager to get in on it because they get paid, too.
Don't fall for it.
If you don't finalize negotiation on the day of, expect to fight it for quite a while. |
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