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chris_J2
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 Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: Gunman terrorizes Northern Illinois University - 6 dead. |
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NIU campus police say danger has passed
Tyler Dukes
Issue date: 2/14/08 Section: News. Updated: 5:23 p.m.
Staff at Northern Illinois University have confirmed several people on the DeKalb, Ill., campus have been shot by an unknown gunman.
A campus alert posted on the University's Web site at 3:50 p.m. Thursday said "several people have been taken away by ambulances." Classes have also been canceled for Thursday night and Friday.
In a 4:14 p.m. campus alert, NIU campus police said the gunman is no longer a threat.
For more information check the campus alert site at NIU for updates.
Keep checking technicianonline.com for more information on this developing story.
http://media.www.technicianonline.com/media/storage/paper848/news/2008/02/14/News/Gunman.Terrorizes.Northern.Illinois.University-3211718.shtml
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chris_J2
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: Shooting |
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A gunman has wounded at least 15 people when he opened fire with a shotgun in a university classroom outside Chicago, authorities say.
It appeared that the gunman had been killed.
"Campus police report that the immediate danger has passed," the Web site of Northern Illinois University in DeKalb said on its Web site. "The gunman is no longer a threat."
The local student newspaper and other media outlets said the gunman was dead, possibly by suicide.
A hospital near the campus said at least three victims suffered head wounds, and as many as 15 wounded people were expected. Local media reported 18 people were shot, including the gunman.
One student told local radio that roughly 140 students were in a geology classroom when the man opened fire. Other witnesses said students were bleeding profusely from neck and other wounds after being hit by buckshot from the shotgun.
Ambulances swarmed onto the 25,000-student campus, which is 104 km west of downtown Chicago, and classes were cancelled, the university said on its Web site.
One male student said he was sitting in the class, taking notes when the gunman entered from behind a curtain, firing a shotgun. "He was just shooting, and people were screaming."
A woman who was outside the classroom when the shooting occurred said students fled in terror. |
http://news.smh.com.au/at-least-15-wounded-in-us-uni-shooting/20080215-1sfl.html |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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never been there, another of a long list of campus shootings
next thread... |
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Natalia
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What I find most disturbing is this:
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The shooting was the fourth at a U.S. school within a week.
On Feb. 8, a woman shot two fellow students to death before committing suicide at Louisiana Technical College in Baton Rouge. In Memphis, Tenn., a 17-year-old is accused of shooting and critically wounding a fellow student Monday during a high school gym class, and the 15-year-old victim of a shooting at an Oxnard, Calif., junior high school has been declared brain dead. |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/niu_shooting
How can so many Americans still try and justify the gun situation in their country?!
ONE incident like this anywhere else in the civilised world would send the government into action to change gun laws. I just cannot begin to comprehend how any American can support the current gun laws and the 'right to bear arms'. |
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agentX
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The right-to-carry lobby has a strong pull on politicians, so the gun laws are generally weak. In these 4 cases, it will probably turn out that 2 of the 4 shooters legally owned the guns they used (the 2 kid shooters probably didn't legally own their guns).
Mental Illness is extremely unchecked in the US. Thank Reagan for that. So, tragedies like this are more and more common. There are no psychological exam requirements for gun owners, although in many states a crazy person can be banned from owning a gun. But as we've seen in other cases, that doesn't stop people.
From the MSNBC article
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| The Chicago Sun-Times reported at the time that an unknown person posted the graffiti in the Grant Towers D complex residence hall. It included a racial slur and the notation, �What time? The VA tech shooters messed up w/ having only one shooter.� |
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stillnotking
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Location: Oregon, USA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Natalia wrote: |
What I find most disturbing is this:
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The shooting was the fourth at a U.S. school within a week.
On Feb. 8, a woman shot two fellow students to death before committing suicide at Louisiana Technical College in Baton Rouge. In Memphis, Tenn., a 17-year-old is accused of shooting and critically wounding a fellow student Monday during a high school gym class, and the 15-year-old victim of a shooting at an Oxnard, Calif., junior high school has been declared brain dead. |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/niu_shooting
How can so many Americans still try and justify the gun situation in their country?!
ONE incident like this anywhere else in the civilised world would send the government into action to change gun laws. I just cannot begin to comprehend how any American can support the current gun laws and the 'right to bear arms'. |
The problem isn't gun-control laws. The problem is Americans. We shoot each other a lot more than other countries, even other countries that have way more privately-owned guns per capita.
Why? Theories abound. But it's far from clear that stricter gun-control laws have any effect on reducing gun violence here. |
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cbclark4
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| agentX wrote: |
The right-to-carry lobby has a strong pull on politicians, so the gun laws are generally weak. In these 4 cases, it will probably turn out that 2 of the 4 shooters legally owned the guns they used (the 2 kid shooters probably didn't legally own their guns).
Mental Illness is extremely unchecked in the US. Thank Reagan for that. So, tragedies like this are more and more common. There are no psychological exam requirements for gun owners, although in many states a crazy person can be banned from owning a gun. But as we've seen in other cases, that doesn't stop people.
From the MSNBC article
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| The Chicago Sun-Times reported at the time that an unknown person posted the graffiti in the Grant Towers D complex residence hall. It included a racial slur and the notation, �What time? The VA tech shooters messed up w/ having only one shooter.� |
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You can't blame Reagan. The Carter Admin released all the nuts that
were being held against their will (committed) . Many VA hospitals were
emptied.
It has been much more difficult to get people committed since then
Reagan did nothing to change that. |
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Justin Hale
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Natalia wrote: |
What I find most disturbing is this:
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The shooting was the fourth at a U.S. school within a week.
On Feb. 8, a woman shot two fellow students to death before committing suicide at Louisiana Technical College in Baton Rouge. In Memphis, Tenn., a 17-year-old is accused of shooting and critically wounding a fellow student Monday during a high school gym class, and the 15-year-old victim of a shooting at an Oxnard, Calif., junior high school has been declared brain dead. |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/niu_shooting
How can so many Americans still try and justify the gun situation in their country?!
ONE incident like this anywhere else in the civilised world would send the government into action to change gun laws. I just cannot begin to comprehend how any American can support the current gun laws and the 'right to bear arms'. |
It's a popular product. Prohibiting it would be successful only in flooding the streets with an illegal version. |
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itaewonguy
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just blame Religion! what else could it be!
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chris_J2
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jeffkim1972
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
just blame Religion! what else could it be!
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From reading these boards last time, i thought it was mentally deranged Koreans with identity problems that commit all of these crimes. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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| jeffkim1972 wrote: |
| itaewonguy wrote: |
just blame Religion! what else could it be!
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From reading these boards last time, i thought it was mentally deranged Koreans with identity problems that commit all of these crimes. |
I was waiting for the first defensive korean to pop up. |
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Jessie
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Many argue that stricter gun control laws are useless, but when Bill Clinton passed the ban on semi-automatic assault weapons in 1994, law enforcement agencies agreed that it helped them cut down on violence. Not much use now, as Bush let the ban expire, when he assured voters during his campaign in 2000 that he would extend it in 2004. One of the many promises he chose to ignore and disregard once elected into office.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/faqs/?page=awb |
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agentX
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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| cbclark4 wrote: |
| agentX wrote: |
The right-to-carry lobby has a strong pull on politicians, so the gun laws are generally weak. In these 4 cases, it will probably turn out that 2 of the 4 shooters legally owned the guns they used (the 2 kid shooters probably didn't legally own their guns).
Mental Illness is extremely unchecked in the US. Thank Reagan for that. So, tragedies like this are more and more common. There are no psychological exam requirements for gun owners, although in many states a crazy person can be banned from owning a gun. But as we've seen in other cases, that doesn't stop people.
From the MSNBC article
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| The Chicago Sun-Times reported at the time that an unknown person posted the graffiti in the Grant Towers D complex residence hall. It included a racial slur and the notation, �What time? The VA tech shooters messed up w/ having only one shooter.� |
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You can't blame Reagan. The Carter Admin released all the nuts that
were being held against their will (committed) . Many VA hospitals were
emptied.
It has been much more difficult to get people committed since then
Reagan did nothing to change that. |
Actually, in 1980, Reagan nullified the Mental Health Services act and cut spending on mental health hospitals.
While governor of California, he cut funding to mental health treatment which began the mass releasing of psychiatric patients.
Though Reagan himself is not to blame for this shooting, but if he had enforced rather than ignored the services act, then perhaps others would have received treatments. |
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jeffkim1972
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| jeffkim1972 wrote: |
| itaewonguy wrote: |
just blame Religion! what else could it be!
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From reading these boards last time, i thought it was mentally deranged Koreans with identity problems that commit all of these crimes. |
I was waiting for the first defensive korean to pop up. |
I'm not Korean, so you must still wait, and read again, i'm not being defensive. |
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