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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 6:29 pm    Post subject: Cheese! Reply with quote

Cheese is one of the basic food groups for crying out loud. There is nothing more annoying than people posting that we shouldn't expect to find certain items in Korea because "we're not back home anymore". It is not as if we're asking for some esoteric product that few people have ever heard of. Koreans produce and stock lots of foods of which they themselves don't necessarily consume huge quantities (exempli gratia, cereal). So what is the deal with cheese.

And moreover why can't they make bread that's not the colour and texture of styrofoam, or has mashed beans or weird-ass nuts in it?
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Jasmine



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Hongkers!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget sweet buns or danishes with MEAT in them. Eeeeeeeeeew!!!! Rolling Eyes
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because 40 million Koreans(rough guess) think that cheese crap stinks up the house?
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You would think that Korean would really go for the strong tasting cheeses, like extra sharp cheddar for example. A lot of Korean foods have a strong taste and smell, so wonder sometimes if you could build a market here if done right.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We could only hope.
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elmer



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: cowtown

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

weatherman wrote:
if you could build a market here


that's the challenge.
Most of your average bigMart shoppers have no idea what do do with a brick of cheddar. I'm curious what they do with the Mozaa.

It's like that with alot of "western" products.
Broccoli for example. My sister-in-law is serving it alot these days. Boiled and plain for the kids, and with cho gotchu-jang (vinegared hot pepper paste) for the adults. She doesn't have butter or cheese in her fridge.

I think it's proportional to the level of foreign influx. Being Canadian, I'm used to, and my parents are used to, having a huge choice of international foods. Although Seoul has a pretty good variety, it's not in the country-wide mainstream. People that are doing the cooking and shopping in Korea are not accustomed to having a wide variety of non-Korean items. It wasn't so long ago (15 or so years ago) that I remember learning about falaffel and pita, hummous. As a kid I never remember having salsa around, and now even that's available here.

Since Korea is still so homogenous, it will take a while before stuff like cheese is in every "supa".
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IconsFanatic



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jasmine wrote:
Don't forget sweet buns or danishes with MEAT in them. Eeeeeeeeeew!!!! Rolling Eyes


BBQ pork buns are heavenly!
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Cheese! Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
Cheese is one of the basic food groups for crying out loud.


whoa buddy! solid chunks of rotten milk aren't one of my choices for "basic food groups."

Anyway, cheese is sold EVERYWHERE. It's just very bad quality. Some French friends of mine in New Zealand were always complaining about the lack of decent cheese. I guess it's kind of like that. Tell a Korean you miss cheese and they'll show up with 100 slices of Kraft's finest then not understand why you start yelling "insult to cheese!!!" and all that. Now I know what my French buddies were going on about.

Traditionally in North-east Asia dairy products were thought of as food the the l'il ones. It's been a big marketing effort just to get people to eat as much as they do now. Chinese people still get grossed out by the amount of bovine lactic secretions we ingest.

Edible cheese is pretty easy to get in Seoul anyway though... I mean how far away could you be from a Department store?
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not in Seoul BUDDY...I'm four hours away from Seoul...and don't talk about chunks of rotten milk, what the hell do you think kimchi is, fresh vegetables??
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Dan



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: Cheese! Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
Cheese is one of the basic food groups for crying out loud.


lol, the cheese food group? is the above the breads group on the pyramid?

don't get me wrong, i miss cheese terribly, in fact, my mother sends sharp cheedar to my relatives every now and then, but they don't know what to do with it, so they throw it away, hahaha.

Cheese is especially difficult to digest for many koreans, so you see even if someone in a family enjoys cheese
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, cheese is sold everywhere in korea but since koreans have only relatively recently acquired a taste for cheese the cheese that's everywhere is bland, right? not long ago all koreans were on the farm. and the ox was for plowing and cattle were for butchering but nobody much drank milk or made cheese. so it's like koreans are completely inexperienced re; the glory of cheese. they give it to children, just like milk was for children. not for making cheese (back in the old days). koreans think chocolate bars are for children only, too. so old-timers will give a foreigner buying a chocolate funny looks, like 'are you immature?'. things are quickly changing, and koreans are ballooning. they love pizza, and this will lead to interest in cheese as a single item of (hopefully) various kinds. notice it's a corporate cheese availabe in the markets. velveeta, etc. a kind of 'generic cheese'. very bland.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is vanilla coke? i haven't been home in three years. as soon as you mention it i must have it. now i'm driving myself nuts over it.
kimchi, which smells as 'bad' as cheese, smells like cheese. it's 'low calorie' and tastes like cheese. this new 'crunchy cheese' was invented by koreans! thus, they could care less about 'varieties of cheese'.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing about Vanilla Coke is it does smell better than it tastes. If there was a home perfume I'd probably buy it and spray it around my office - I'm trying to fight off the smoke smells coming from the Korean profs down the hall - but if I actually started spraying Vanilla Coke, before long my floor would be as sticky as a movie theater. Hmm.

BTW, you might be able to buy it in Itaewon, at the Red Door or the like...
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah, cheese. the best cheese i've had was up at my grandparents farm. they bought it from the local general store. it was in a big wheel and a wedge wrapped in waxed brown paper cut. it broke in a crumbly way. the rind waxy and chewy, not sharp. medium.
a poster said recently that sharp cheddar can be bought in chunks from costco. beer and cheese. canadian molson beer can be bought at homeplus.
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mysteriousdeltarays



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheese is one of these "class oriented" products. Say goodbye to it the boonies. With luck Velveeta, America's contribution to gourmet dining, might be available.

Count yourself lucky on that if you are in the hicks.

I remember when the local tap water was "safe to drink."
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