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RACETRAITOR

Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject: Mouse

Has anyone noticed how often Koreans mix up the words mouse and mouth? I've encountered it many, many times, about as much as any regular Konglish.

canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject:

How about kitchen with chicken? Heard that inverted more times than I could count.

Atavistic

Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Mouse

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Has anyone noticed how often Koreans mix up the words mouse and mouth? I've encountered it many, many times, about as much as any regular Konglish.

I don;t think it's a mix-up. They can't say the th.

RACETRAITOR

Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Mouse

Atavistic wrote:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Has anyone noticed how often Koreans mix up the words mouse and mouth? I've encountered it many, many times, about as much as any regular Konglish.

I don;t think it's a mix-up. They can't say the th.

I'm talking about in writing, not speaking.

The kitchen<->chicken thing is a common quirk of pronunciation as well, but most Koreans wouldn't make the same mistake on paper. The more common mistake is spelling it as "kichen."

normalcyispasse

Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Mouse

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Atavistic wrote:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Has anyone noticed how often Koreans mix up the words mouse and mouth? I've encountered it many, many times, about as much as any regular Konglish.

I don;t think it's a mix-up. They can't say the th.

I'm talking about in writing, not speaking.

When they are taught vocabulary by a Korean speaker, both words are transliterated as 마우스; there's simply no distinction. Most children (or, indeed, people) will know 미키 마우스, so the "mouse" part becomes fairly standardized.

Think otherwise? You can just shut your mouse.

RACETRAITOR

Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: Mouse

normalcyispasse wrote:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Atavistic wrote:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Has anyone noticed how often Koreans mix up the words mouse and mouth? I've encountered it many, many times, about as much as any regular Konglish.

I don;t think it's a mix-up. They can't say the th.

I'm talking about in writing, not speaking.

I'm sure that's exactly it. It started because they couldn't differentiate the sounds, but down the road after they learn the different sounds, they still make the mistake in writing. Most of the people who I've seen make the mistake are pretty competent writers.

Atavistic

Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Mouse

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Atavistic wrote:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Has anyone noticed how often Koreans mix up the words mouse and mouth? I've encountered it many, many times, about as much as any regular Konglish.

I don;t think it's a mix-up. They can't say the th.

Ah, first post didn't specify written.

I like Coke as C*ck.

RACETRAITOR

Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Mouse

Atavistic wrote:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Atavistic wrote:

RACETRAITOR wrote:

Has anyone noticed how often Koreans mix up the words mouse and mouth? I've encountered it many, many times, about as much as any regular Konglish.

I don;t think it's a mix-up. They can't say the th.

Ah, first post didn't specify written.

I like Coke as C*ck.

Yeah, my mistake. I read Koreans' writing for a living, so most of my observations come from that. If it was a simple "they can't make this sound with their mouths" then the problem would just be my lack of understanding.

I had a waitress who kept asking me if I wanted cock a while ago.

CasperTheFriendlyGhost

Joined: 28 Feb 2007

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:09 am Post subject:

I've notived when spelling words with a b sometimes my students put a v. Weird as it takes forever to teach them to even pronounce v.

crescent

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:43 am Post subject:

I'm still looking for an explanation for the chronic "he'/ 'she' errors.

RACETRAITOR

Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:15 am Post subject:

CasperTheFriendlyGhost wrote:

I've notived when spelling words with a b sometimes my students put a v. Weird as it takes forever to teach them to even pronounce v.

Yeah, it's an interesting example of overcompensating.

crescent wrote:

I'm still looking for an explanation for the chronic "he'/ 'she' errors.

Probably the lack of use of gender-specific pronouns in Korean. I always tell my students it's the one mistake in English most likely to get you beaten up.

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