Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

K. soldiers, in mandatory service, earn 100,000 per month
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: K. soldiers, in mandatory service, earn 100,000 per month Reply with quote

This shocked me. I asked a colleague of mine and she said this figure isn't a misprint. Yes, 100,000 KRW a month for those serving the mandatory military service of 2 years. They get paid essentially nothing.

Quote:
We are not at war with anyone. Who are we fighting, says Kim Ki-deok, 20, who is planning to go on a leave of absence at Kyungwon College and is readying himself to enter the military next year. "I am going, but it's nonsense if you ask me." What irks many young Koreans today, in addition to a perceived lack of the Cold War rationale for conscription, is being denied a place in the job market right after college or high school.

To put salaries into perspective, a sergeant in the army earns less than 100,000 won ($106) per month.


http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2886408
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: K. soldiers, in mandatory service, earn 100,000 per mont Reply with quote

agoodmouse wrote:
This shocked me. I asked a colleague of mine and she said this figure isn't a misprint. Yes, 100,000 KRW a month for those serving the mandatory military service of 2 years. They get paid essentially nothing.


I know a couple of men who tried to go to Afghanistan during their service just to get paid more.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

presumably everything is paid for them in the military

so the cash is for smokes and soju and buses to their hometown when they get a leave

i don't see what's shocking
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if it's still the case, but each soldier used to receive 15 packs of smokes a month.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
presumably everything is paid for them in the military

so the cash is for smokes and soju and buses to their hometown when they get a leave

i don't see what's shocking


Of course, essentially everything is paid for them, but paying them next to nothing doesn't do much to help morale.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
anyangoldboy



Joined: 28 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just say they get a weekend leave once ever 4 months...that's like 400,000won for a weekend...Pretty good if you ask me...They more or less go home to their parents anyway and so it's not like they have to pay for anything there either...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agoodmouse wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
presumably everything is paid for them in the military

so the cash is for smokes and soju and buses to their hometown when they get a leave

i don't see what's shocking


Of course, essentially everything is paid for them, but paying them next to nothing doesn't do much to help morale.


While I'm sure it's not true of all soldiers here, Koreans young adults generally receive alot more support from their families than the average American young adult.

(I was gonna write "Westerner", but I should only give my opinion based on my experience.)

(edited again due to sausage fingers)


Last edited by caniff on Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:40 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the Korean draftees spend all their time on base and can go out only on weekends.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's up to W100,000 now? Korea must really be getting rich. When I came, it was more like W20,000 and for some reason the number W10,000 comes to mind.

I can tell you that officers today make about the same that we do.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agoodmouse wrote:
I thought the Korean draftees spend all their time on base and can go out only on weekends.


Exactly. So what the hell do they need money for? Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
It's up to W100,000 now? Korea must really be getting rich. When I came, it was more like W20,000 and for some reason the number W10,000 comes to mind.


You're thinking of Private. The OP mentioned the rank for Sergeant. The Korean military automatically advances its enlisted personnel four times during their mandatory service. The advances are based on time in service and it apparently takes a major offense to interfere with the advancement.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is like more than they used to get paid. I heard that at around the time of the Seoul Olympics they used to get something like 2,500 won a month.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd feel the same way about soldier pay if U.S. reservists were paid just $100 a month, even if said soldiers were living with their mothers and fathers and getting all kinds of support. I think if the shoe were on the other foot, people would be more concerned about any soldiers getting just $100 a month.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's small but given all your needs are taken care of, better than a kick in the head. It's not a job. It's what Korean males theoretically owe to Korea. Going to wash your father's feet while he's in the hospital or drinking with the boss or the billion of other duties Koreans have to perform to keep from being the wang-ta isn't paid work either.

Connections connections connections. It's the rotary club or a frat for young Korean men. Army hires army. Guys in the same regiment or battalion give the same a better shot at a job.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the 3 guys I asked today, privates get 4 packs of cigarettes a month for the minimum tax-free price, they thought W300 or W400.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Current Events Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International