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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: Castro retires. |
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Cuba's ailing leader, Fidel Castro has announced he will not return to the presidency in a letter published by official Communist Party paper, Granma.
"I neither will aspire to nor will I accept, the position of president of the Council of state and commander in chief," he wrote in the letter.
Mr Castro handed over power temporarily to his brother, Raul, in July 2006 when he underwent intestinal surgery.
The 81-year-old has ruled Cuba since leading a communist revolution in 1959.
In December, Mr Castro indicated that he could possibly step down in favour of a younger generation. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7252109.stm |
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Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007 Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: |
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I wonder who it will go to? |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Fidel Castro wrote: |
I neither will aspire to nor will I accept... |
For an antiAmerican politico, he sure loves to ape American presidents' speeches.
In any case, Castro's retirement from politics is beginning to look a lot like an old rock band's neverending, serial farewell tour. Is he retiring from politics or not? If so, he ought to get on with it rather than issue one press-release after the other talking about it...
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: |
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It's about f'ing time. Good riddance. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: |
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I don't think anything will change in the immediate future, but the clock will start ticking as of today. Once he's dead and buried, then we'll probably see a move to imitate Vietnam, China, etc. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:43 am Post subject: |
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Given the fact that things have been in limbo for awhile no big surprise. I have to wonder if maybe Castro was waiting to see how well his brother did in power before totally stepping aside. It kind of seems like that's how they planned it. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I don't think anything will change in the immediate future, but the clock will start ticking as of today. Once he's dead and buried, then we'll probably see a move to imitate Vietnam, China, etc. |
Maybe..I've heard there are plenty of investors just chopping at the bit to invest there once things change. Once things do, it will probably turn into a tourist destination. |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:53 am Post subject: |
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The Cuban govt has already been cultivating the tourism industry for some time. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:24 am Post subject: |
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Yep, but given the fact there is a travel ban for Americans it could be much more of a travel destination. |
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Czarjorge

Joined: 01 May 2007 Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:36 am Post subject: |
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I've always wanted to go to Cuba. All the Cuban women I've met have been painfully gorgeous.
It's a long shot but I'm hoping that the cult of personality that is Cuban politics continues. Only the wrinkle I hope for is something along the lines of what happened in Spain with the death of Francisco Franco. As far as I know there is no equivalent to Prince Juan Carlos in Cuba, but it would be great. Sometimes the world works out wonderfully. |
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Zebra12
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Location: Ottawa
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: Despots and Tin Pots |
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The Castro regime is just about at the end of its rope...soon to be transformed by a new agenda, one that reflects the collective desires of the Cuban people to achieve a higher degree of prosperity and independence from the doctrines of tyranny. Raul Castro's bland personality (and ruthless behavior in the past), will simply assist (or accelerate) this process of change...as he does not have the charismatic appeal of his brother, or the will (might I say "stamina") to carry the communist ideal forward. The youth of the nation--clearly understand that the 'revolutionary dreams' of the past no longer fit the demands of living in an increasingly electronic global village of the 21st century. They were not a part of the revolution in 1959, and after almost 50 years of repressive actions on the part of the regime...the youth are increasingly demanding change. This process will unfold much as it did in Russia during the late 1980s...leading to a complete paradigm-shift in the thinking of the community as a whole.
In Cuba, the people are stealing many things from the government just to stay alive (i.e., materials; tools; gas etc.)...and it's the black market which really helps maintain the stability of the Cuban economy as a whole. Cuba is not at all like North Korea...in Cuban society the young people (generation XYZ) are alert to the rising tide of the digital culture...and are very informed about everything that's going on in the world. Cuban timba music [for example] is the new voice of the people in La Havana...a volatile current that is also supported by other contemporary art forms etc. Music is an important medium through which people exchange new ideas in Cuba (this is especially so in Havana). They would, of course, prefer a peaceful transition of state power: rather than one that heralds the use of molotovs; disrupted communications; and the burning of buildings. The United States, Canada, Mexico, and Europe, will play an important role in the new Cuba, a new political triad will undoubtedly emerge over the next few years.
I have a computer system set up at our home in Cuba...actually had the Internet connection established by members of the local secret police (!)...only to have it shut down after a few months of operation...no reprecussions (we access other lines)...fascinating times...many properties changing hands...millions of dollars ready to flow into the country once a free-market system is established. The Cuban people are anxious to build a socialist state that's more along the lines of Canada and Europe...flexible socialism with a mixed capitalist economy.
My thoughts on the topic. I believe that today's annoucement was happily received by millions of Cubans as a symbol of the profound change that lies ahead. Oh yeah...there will be a big "porco asado" feast after Castro is six feet under...and though they will shed tears for the despot...they will be thinking about the ideas of the real national hero: Jose Marti.
Anything that drives a wedge between people, clasifies them, isolates them or confines them is a sin against humanity. The Fatherland demand sacrifices. It is an alter, not a pedestal. Jose Marti
In contrast to this sentiment, Fidel Catsro used the nation as a pedestal...and lacked the intellectual capacity to understand Jose Marti's poetic genius. There is more to history than a dialectic of materialism...something that Castro failed to understand. |
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catman

Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Good riddance. Hopefully now the US will end its embargo and travel ban on the country. |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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The embargo derives more from exile-community politics in American affairs than anything else. And Castro is the one who is dying -- not them. Hard to say what will happen once he leaves politics once-and-for-all. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Castro = a gangster with a beard. |
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cerulean808

Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:43 am Post subject: Re: Despots and Tin Pots |
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Zebra12
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The Cuban people are anxious to build a socialist state that's more along the lines of Canada and Europe...flexible socialism with a mixed capitalist economy. |
You will be lucky. Mickey Mouse Land has different plans for you. Something along the lines of 1000s of Ken Lays descending upon Cuba like a locust swarm.
In fact that actually sums up US foreign policy in a nut shell. |
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