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The Presidency: A Scandal No More (at least not for this)
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Been There, Taught That



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: The Presidency: A Scandal No More (at least not for this) Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080221/ap_on_re_as/skorea_new_president_scandal

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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because the constitution grants sitting presidents immunity from criminal prosecution ... Shocked

Is this normal?
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"'The president-elect was not involved in the stock price manipulation," special prosecutor Chung Ho-young said in a televised announcement of the outcome of a 38-day investigation."

i wonder how much that cost Lee...
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cuckoo for kimchi



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: somewhere lost in time and space...or korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really.......is anyone surprised that this happened? (not that he was acquitted, but that these charges surfaced).
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they almost had to clear him. can you imagine the scandal (in other countries, not just korea) if he was found at fault and still been let into office?

korea might come off as some sort of crooked country in the international community... Wink
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mikekim



Joined: 11 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised he didn't get free sunglasses and a shopping trip to Dubai included.

You might want to edit the title, its clearly obvious right now, but it will save the endless copy threads.
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Been There, Taught That



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just days before the election, a 2000 video surfaced of Lee bragging in a speech that he founded BBK. Lee said the comments were taken out of context. . .

South Korean voters, however, overlooked the alleged wrongdoing to give Lee a landslide victory in the Dec. 19 vote.

To me, this actually speaks for itself: No matter the cost: 1.Voters wanted this guy in, or 2. Voters wanted Roh out. Is Lee that much a favorite son? Could he have been just stealing thunder in 2000? Didn't he know he'd be running for president of SK just 8 short years later?


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spliff



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good, can't wait to sail down the canal. Very Happy
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nomad-ish



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been There, Taught That wrote:
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Just days before the election, a 2000 video surfaced of Lee bragging in a speech that he founded BBK. Lee said the comments were taken out of context. . .

South Korean voters, however, overlooked the alleged wrongdoing to give Lee a landslide victory in the Dec. 19 vote.

To me, this actually speaks for itself: No matter the cost: 1.Voters wanted this guy in, or 2. Voters wanted Roh out. Is Lee that much a favorite son? Could he have been just stealing thunder in 2000? Didn't he know he'd be running for president of SK just 8 short years later?


uh, what?? is this a joke? Wink
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Been There, Taught That



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nomad-ish wrote:
uh, what?? is this a joke? Wink

You call sarcasm a joke?

. . .But didn't he?
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The so called Prostituter er I mean Prosecutor had no power to enforce the summoning of witnesses. Any witness could just say stuff you and not show up. Pathetic! Also it took sooo long for an investigation to finally occour that there was plenty of time to destroy any evidence. Under those circumstances, off course there will be no evidence!
LMB was born in Japan, so effectivley Korea is now going to be run by a Jap again. Ohh the irony.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
LMB was born in Japan, so effectivley Korea is now going to be run by a Jap again. Ohh the irony.


Hardly Japanese, he's ethnic Korean who barely spent anytime in Japan. His parents are Korean, and his parents returned to Korea after WWII when LMB was at the grand old age of 5.
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shaunew



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
GoldMember wrote:
LMB was born in Japan, so effectivley Korea is now going to be run by a Jap again. Ohh the irony.


Hardly Japanese, he's ethnic Korean who barely spent anytime in Japan. His parents are Korean, and his parents returned to Korea after WWII when LMB was at the grand old age of 5.


He was still born in Japan tho. I was born in Canada and now live in Korea, does that make me Korean. Not in a million years. I have a wife, son, apartment and business here and will always be a foreigner in the eyes of the Great Han people.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shaunew wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
GoldMember wrote:
LMB was born in Japan, so effectivley Korea is now going to be run by a Jap again. Ohh the irony.


Hardly Japanese, he's ethnic Korean who barely spent anytime in Japan. His parents are Korean, and his parents returned to Korea after WWII when LMB was at the grand old age of 5.


He was still born in Japan tho. I was born in Canada and now live in Korea, does that make me Korean. Not in a million years. I have a wife, son, apartment and business here and will always be a foreigner in the eyes of the Great Han people.


But LMB is Korean.

Korea, Japan and most Asian countries generally grants citizenship by blood, aka jus sanguinis. Being born in a country doesn't always mean you will be a citizen of that country. The biggest factor is that LMB is an ethnic Korean, with both parents being of Korean descent.

Japanese consider him Korean.
Koreans consider him Korean.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shaunew wrote:
He was still born in Japan tho. I was born in Canada and now live in Korea, does that make me Korean. Not in a million years. I have a wife, son, apartment and business here and will always be a foreigner in the eyes of the Great Han people.


The only case in which Japanese citizenship is granted based on birth on Japanese territory is if the nationality of both parents is unknown. This has occurred just once, IIRC. A woman who used a stolen passport for identification at a maternity hospital abanonded her child at the hospital. The Japanese courts ordered the government to issue the child a Japanese passport due to the aforementioned rule.

Both Japanese law and Korean law consider LMB to be a Korean citizen and only a Korean citizen.

And, mods, is there any chance to clean up the thread by removing the racist slur upthread?
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