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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Parents pay for a hospital stay at rack rate. Jobs. I see nothing wrong there.
Parents pay for schooling in America. I'm not sure if a kid without any state residence gets free public eduction or discounted university education. So more money for Americans. Jobs. I see nothing wrong.
Kid likely gets an education in science, business, or engineering and stays in America and pays lots and lots of taxes. So more money for America. I see nothing wrong there.
What's the problem with this exactly for America? |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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A person who is not actually considered a legal resident of a particular state doesn't get the in-state tuition breaks. Each state has some rules regarding how that is determined and there are cases where the "residency for tuition purposes" is different than the person's "residency for legal purposes."
I don't see a problem, either. After all, the minor child cannot be considered a sponsor for the parent to immigrate to the United States. After he grows up, then he can sponsor the parents into the country but there are more rules involved than just saying, "Hey, I'm American and they're my parents; they're coming in now!" |
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stevieg4ever
Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Location: London, England
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| Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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스파클링 인디드 
basically says it all about this country. Possibly the most damning indictment of Korea today. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: Re: Koreans Rush to Guam and Saipan for US Citizenship Babie |
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Korean pregnant women are rushing to Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands (NMI) -- of which the largest island is Saipan -- to give birth so that their new born baby will have American citizenship. This is nothing new. It has been going on for years. A few months ago I even met a Korean student whose cousin was born in Guam. This scheme has created an entire industry in which rich Korean pregnant mothers-to-be fly to Guam or Saipan so that they can give birth there so that their new born baby will have American citizenship. There are companies that arrange it all, from the airplane tickets to the lodging, and all for a hefty price. As in America, one is automatically granted American citizenship if one is born on American soil, and Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands are a part of the US of A. Here's a recent article about it. Any thoughts?
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This has been going on for decades. Here in Gangnam-gu, there are seminars devoted to this criminal practice.
See the article at http://www.mvariety.com/frontpage/front01.htm
or see below.
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Tourists Make NMI a Place to Give Birth to US Citizen Children
By Haidee V. Eugenio
Variety Assistant Editor
TOURISTS, even in an advanced stage of pregnancy, travel to the CNMI to take advantage of an immigration system that automatically grants U.S. citizenship to children born here regardless of the nationality or immigration status of their parents.
One of them, in her eighth month of pregnancy, arrived on Saipan from Korea early Wednesday morning.
Other pregnant tourists also from Korea are expected to arrive on Saipan
in September, it was learned.
In the last few months, tourists have given birth to their U.S. citizen children at the Commonwealth Health Center and then left the CNMI when they received their children�s birth certificates and passports.
Division of Immigration director Melvin Grey yesterday reiterated that there is nothing in federal or local laws that prevents travel into the CNMI by pregnant women or makes pregnancy a ground for �exclusion.�
�There is no law preventing the travel of pregnant women and the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution says all persons born in the United States are citizens of the U.S.,� said Grey.
Some airlines, however, do have policies restricting the travel of women in an advanced stage of pregnancy for medical and liability concerns but these can be easily circumvented.
Under the CNMI visa waiver program and the visitor entry program, tourists are allowed to remain in the islands initially for 30 days but this can be extended for up to 60 days for a total of three months.
Grey said tourists sometimes ask for extensions while waiting for the release of the newborn�s passport.
�You cannot force them out,� said Grey, adding, however, that Immigration is �looking into whether there�s criminal interest� or fraud in instances where third parties may be getting money from tourists giving birth in the CNMI.
Grey said while it is not illegal for tourists visiting the CNMI to give birth here, some members of the community may see this as �not right,� and as a moral issue.
Grey, a former immigration official on the U.S. mainland, cited instances of women from Mexico crossing the border just to give birth in the United States.
However, Grey said Immigration is very much aware of the concern about tourists taking advantage of the immigration system.
The U.S. Constitution grants automatic U.S. citizenship to those who are born in the U.S. The CNMI, as a U.S. commonwealth, is covered by this provision.
The CNMI�s visa waiver program applies to citizens from South Korea, along with those from other countries like Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Taiwan and most European countries.
Citizens from these countries can come to the CNMI without a visa and don�t need individuals to �sponsor� them during their stay here.
However, Variety learned there are some individuals in the CNMI who have been �sponsoring� pregnant tourists and their families in exchange for a hefty fee and help them extend their stay for up to 60 days after the initial 30-day stay.
But as Grey says, there�s no law against pregnant women traveling or against giving birth in the CNMI by anybody regardless of their immigration status.
Source: Marianas Variety; Friday, August 31st, 2007; http://www.mvariety.com/frontpage/front01.htm
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Geckoman
Joined: 07 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:32 am Post subject: Korean in Guam Busted for Fraudulent Marriage Scam! |
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A Korean in Guam has just gotten busted for a fraudulent marriage scam to avoid U.S. Immigration laws. See below.
People will do ANYTHING to live in the USA!
Just look at all those people going across the desert from Mexico to come to the US -- some do not make it across and die in the desert.
And an even more extreme case are all those Haitians who attempt to raft across the Caribbean in nothing more than planks of wood tied together -- to only meet a watery grave.
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Korean in fake marriage sentenced to 10 months
Wednesday February 20, 2008
By Gina Tabonares
Variety News Staff
THE District Court of Guam yesterday released its judgment order against Ju Mi An Fernandez and ordered the Korean national to serve 10 months in jail for perjury charges.
Fernandez, who was indicted with marriage fraud charges and perjury with a local policeman, was only sentenced with the perjury offense after the prosecution dismissed the two other counts of charges in which she pleaded guilty in a plea agreement.
The court credited Fernandez' 183 days in jail from the 10 months sentence and ordered the defendant to serve 50 days of community service.
The Korean was also placed under two years supervised release and ordered for deportation.
She was charged with Joveno Catama Fernandez Jr. who also pleaded guilty to the same charges.
The 44-year-old Guam Police Department member admitted that their marriage on Oct. 11, 2006 was only made to evade U.S. immigration laws.
His sentencing has been moved to May 1, 2008.
Source: Marianas Variety; Wednesday, February 20, 2008; http://www.mvariety.com/?module=displaystory&story_id=7004&format=html |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Korean in Guam Busted for Fraudulent Marriage Scam! |
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| Geckoman wrote: |
A Korean in Guam has just gotten busted for a fraudulent marriage scam to avoid U.S. Immigration laws. See below.
People will do ANYTHING to live in the USA!
Just look at all those people going across the desert from Mexico to come to the US -- some do not make it across and die in the desert.
And an even more extreme case are all those Haitians who attempt to raft across the Caribbean in nothing more than planks of wood tied together -- to only meet a watery grave. |
I guess they understand that if they work hard they can get fairly compensated for their efforts. The free market is a powerful draw. |
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Geckoman
Joined: 07 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: It's Not Against the Law! |
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| Roch wrote: |
| This has been going on for decades. Here in Gangnam-gu, there are seminars devoted to this criminal practice. |
Actually, it's not a criminal practice because it is not against the law. They are entering the country legally.
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