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Adventurer
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 Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: Mughniyeh's widow: Treason & treachery are behind his mu |
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Mughniyeh's widow: Treason & treachery are behind his murder
Sunday, 24 February, 2008 @ 8:16 PM
Beirut - Saudi Arabia�s newspaper �Okaz� has reported that the widow of Hezbollah�s slain leader Imad Mughniyeh who was assassinated on February 12 in Damascus Syria , left Damascus as soon as her husband was murdered.
The newspaper also reported that Mughniyeh�s widow, who is Iranian was extremely angered by the murder of her husband and blamed it on �treason and treachery� without expanding what she meant and whom she had in mind as the traitors .
http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2008/02/mughniyehs_wido.php |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Mughniyeh's widow: Treason & treachery are behind hi |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
Mughniyeh's widow: Treason & treachery are behind his murder
Sunday, 24 February, 2008 @ 8:16 PM
Beirut - Saudi Arabia�s newspaper �Okaz� has reported that the widow of Hezbollah�s slain leader Imad Mughniyeh who was assassinated on February 12 in Damascus Syria , left Damascus as soon as her husband was murdered.
The newspaper also reported that Mughniyeh�s widow, who is Iranian was extremely angered by the murder of her husband and blamed it on �treason and treachery� without expanding what she meant and whom she had in mind as the traitors .
http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2008/02/mughniyehs_wido.php |
Not to go too far off topic, but isn't Syria something like 80% Sunni but ruled by a small semi-heretical Shia group? I find it amazing that Assads & co. can keep a lid on their country at all when it comes to safe passage for Persian and Shia groups. Maybe the Sunni factions went after this guy and his wife thought that to be traitorous, or advantageous to frame it as a matter of patriotism. I don't really know as much about Syria as I'd like... |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: Mughniyeh's widow: Treason & treachery are behind hi |
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Not to go too far off topic, but isn't Syria something like 80% Sunni but ruled by a small semi-heretical Shia group? I find it amazing that Assads & co. can keep a lid on their country at all when it comes to safe passage for Persian and Shia groups. Maybe the Sunni factions went after this guy and his wife thought that to be traitorous, or advantageous to frame it as a matter of patriotism. I don't really know as much about Syria as I'd like... |
Yes, Assad and the upper levels of the Syrian government are Alawites. There was a big uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood in the city of Hama in 1982, but Assad killed about 20,000 people. Haven't heard much of a peep since then from Sunni leaders. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: Mughniyeh's widow: Treason & treachery are behind hi |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| jkelly80 wrote: |
Not to go too far off topic, but isn't Syria something like 80% Sunni but ruled by a small semi-heretical Shia group? I find it amazing that Assads & co. can keep a lid on their country at all when it comes to safe passage for Persian and Shia groups. Maybe the Sunni factions went after this guy and his wife thought that to be traitorous, or advantageous to frame it as a matter of patriotism. I don't really know as much about Syria as I'd like... |
Yes, Assad and the upper levels of the Syrian government are Alawites. There was a big uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood in the city of Hama in 1982, but Assad killed about 20,000 people. Haven't heard much of a peep since then from Sunni leaders. |
So do the Assads get extra muscle from the Iranians to keep the Sunnis down or what? I don't want to railroad this thread but I've always found Syria fascinating. I would think that the Saudis would view Syria as another proxy point to dance around with Iran. |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: Re: Mughniyeh's widow: Treason & treachery are behind hi |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| jkelly80 wrote: |
Not to go too far off topic, but isn't Syria something like 80% Sunni but ruled by a small semi-heretical Shia group? I find it amazing that Assads & co. can keep a lid on their country at all when it comes to safe passage for Persian and Shia groups. Maybe the Sunni factions went after this guy and his wife thought that to be traitorous, or advantageous to frame it as a matter of patriotism. I don't really know as much about Syria as I'd like... |
Yes, Assad and the upper levels of the Syrian government are Alawites. There was a big uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood in the city of Hama in 1982, but Assad killed about 20,000 people. Haven't heard much of a peep since then from Sunni leaders. |
The Syrian Government includes Alawites, Sunnis, Christians, and Druze. It is mostly dominated by the Alawites, and Assad is an Alawite. The Alawites are only 11% of the population of Syria. The Christians are 12% of the population. I don't remember the percentage of Druze, but they could be 3%. So the population of Sunnis is roughly 75%. The Israeli Government is not strongly against the Syrian Government. Both governments have not really confronted each other. The Alawites broke off from the Shiites supposedly. They also allegedly believe in reincarnation if they adhere to those beliefs. There are many Alawites in Turkey as well, and they support secular parties.
For a long time, the Alawites have had an alliance with Iran. Once, Hafez Al Assad was challenged by Sunnis, that he, as an Alawite, was not a Muslim and thus should not be president. A Shiite cleric in Lebanon, Musa Sadr, who was Lebanese decent but born in Iran said Alawites are essentially Shiites to help silence his critics. Hezbollah has long been used as a tool by both Syria and Iran against Israel, and Syria has used Shiite power somewhat. Some suspect, however, that some in Syria want to distance themselves from Hezbollah. It is viewed by some that the assasination of Mughniyeh who was quite careful couldn't have been carried out without some members of the Syrian intelligence colluding with someone be it Israel or some other interested party in the assasination. We can't know unless those members of the intelligence are discovered.
So do the Assads get extra muscle from the Iranians to keep the Sunnis down or what? I don't want to railroad this thread but I've always found Syria fascinating. I would think that the Saudis would view Syria as another proxy point to dance around with Iran. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Mughniyeh's widow: Treason & treachery are behind hi |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| jkelly80 wrote: |
Not to go too far off topic, but isn't Syria something like 80% Sunni but ruled by a small semi-heretical Shia group? I find it amazing that Assads & co. can keep a lid on their country at all when it comes to safe passage for Persian and Shia groups. Maybe the Sunni factions went after this guy and his wife thought that to be traitorous, or advantageous to frame it as a matter of patriotism. I don't really know as much about Syria as I'd like... |
Yes, Assad and the upper levels of the Syrian government are Alawites. There was a big uprising by the Muslim Brotherhood in the city of Hama in 1982, but Assad killed about 20,000 people. Haven't heard much of a peep since then from Sunni leaders. |
So do the Assads get extra muscle from the Iranians to keep the Sunnis down or what? I don't want to railroad this thread but I've always found Syria fascinating. I would think that the Saudis would view Syria as another proxy point to dance around with Iran. |
adventurer had a pretty good summary. I'd say it is more like Syria and Iran have common interests. They both are anti-Israel, and Hezballah provides them a tool to antagonize Israel. Syria also wants to keep its hand in Lebanese affairs, and Hezballah is one way it is able to do so. As for Iran, it of course supports Hezballah because it is a Shi'ite organization. |
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nicholas_chiasson
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
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| the Alawites are considered ultra heretical wierdos by just about everybody. They don't really have enough acclaim in the Islamic world to sponser religious terrorism of anykind, and as most syrian say "we're into terrorism for the hell of it, not religon." |
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Adventurer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| nicholas_chiasson wrote: |
| the Alawites are considered ultra heretical wierdos by just about everybody. They don't really have enough acclaim in the Islamic world to sponser religious terrorism of anykind, and as most syrian say "we're into terrorism for the hell of it, not religon." |
For the Alawites backing Assad, it is about power and their tribe, not about a religious creed as you said. Hezbollah has a religious ideology. In the end, it is still sectarian interest, though Hezbollah's interest is more of a religious one. The Assads would abandon Hezbollah in favour of Israel. Some speculate that some Shiites are getting fed up with the right wing elements of Hezbollah and more Shiites might be feeling a little alienated from the outside influence of Iran. We are not sure yet, but we know Syria intelligence had to have some elements to give the okay for this murder. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Mughniyahs death was richly deserved whoever did it, Probably the Israelis. |
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jkelly80
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| I am pro motherhood and anti-cancer. |
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