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cerulean808
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:55 am Post subject: Please do not be a passive Muslim. |
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Here's yet another example of the mendacity of the American Crazies. This time an email campaign abusing the Holocaust and 9 11 to promote their Islamophobic message of hatred and intolerance.
Of course it's a lie about Britain removing the Jewish Holocaust from school history lessons. But then what else can be expected from these Western hate mongers?
"Passive Muslim"? The kind of bizarre jargon the likes of crazies SteveMcGarett and JooRip love to parrot in their Hate tirades.
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Please do not be a passive Muslim.
It is a matter of history that when Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.
He did this because he said in words to this effect: "Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened".
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke In Memorial
This week, the UK removed The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it "offended" the Muslim population which claims it never occurred.
This is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.
It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the six million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated while the German and Russian peoples looked the other way!
Now, more than ever, with Iran, among others, claiming the Holocaust to be "a myth," it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.
This e-mail is intended to reach 40 million people worldwide! (that is slightly more than 10% of the population of the USA.) Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.
How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center "never happened" because it offends some Muslim in the U.S.??????
Don't just delete this. It will take a minute to pass this along. Let's make it 400 Million people.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| You started a threat to tell us that you have recd a chain-letter email message and that you have drawn general conclusions about "the American crazies" as well as two posters on this board who you dislike from it. |
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cerulean808
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Gopher
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| two posters on this board who you dislike |
Yeah, one who sends personal attack pms and explodes in a rage of homophobic invective against Moderators if they don't give into his irrational and hypocritical demands.
And one who routinely posts screes of outright US State Department lies and has quite a little sewer mouth on him as well, around IGTG at least.
But I understand your rush to defend these two, you are in good company considering your own track record. A vein popping screamer of a post calling me an anti semite cos I oppose the Israeli Colonisation Project. And then you tried to tell me who my source was for the US-UK elimination of Iranian democracy.
What else can be expected from an right wing extremist with pseudo intellectual pretensions.  |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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Just so long as you clarify that this is going to be one of those threads...
Be my guest. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Please do not be a passive Muslim. |
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| And one who routinely posts screes of outright US State Department lies and has quite a little sewer mouth on him as well, around IGTG at least |
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Fact Saddam kept supplies from his own people . We got the picture . and the Ship the US intercepted M/V MINIMARE is public record While he refers to "US State Departments lies It is interesting that Cerulean808 without question accepts the words of anyone who is against the US (like Pilger ) 
and he is now upset about what was said to IGTG? Why am I not suprised. I think you both have a great deal in common. Wouldn't be suprised if you 2 were buddies. You are both of the same type. You dislike the same people.
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| SteveMcGarett and JooRip love to parrot in their Hate tirades. |
what do you mean by that?
IF anyone is a bigot here it is you.
and we know that John Pilger is one too. I didn't have to take his words out of context to make the case against him.
By the way cerulean808 nice to see that you are buckling. I knew you would. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| The right wing of American politics is guilty of more xenophobia, crass jingoism, and racism than the left. Neither myself nor anyone else who points this out is under any obligation to go into detail regarding the failings or foibles of the American left. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Neither myself nor anyone else who points this out is under any obligation to go into detail regarding the failings or foibles of the American left. |
Ha! Not the least of which being its tendency to hurl allegations and invective; dictate the terms of the debate, thus forcing its will onto its audience; and then depart the field before anyone can respond.
ROFL. Business as usual.
Lovely thread for bringing this out. |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ha! Not the least of which being its tendency to hurl allegations and invective; dictate the terms of the debate, thus forcing its will onto its audience; and then depart the field before anyone can respond.
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These are the techniques of hacks since time immemorial. Hacks, as it is well known, draw very large paychecks from both the left and the right, and to pretend that they have some sort of preferred status on the left is indicative of a lazy and prejudiced mind. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
| The right wing of American politics is guilty of more xenophobia, crass jingoism, and racism than the left. |
I'll concur, as long as you grant the large (huge!) exception of Michael Moore, who has thrown a great deal of xenophobia, jingoism, and racism at Saudi Arabia, basically blaming it for 9-11. |
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jkelly80
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
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| The right wing of American politics is guilty of more xenophobia, crass jingoism, and racism than the left. |
I'll concur, as long as you grant the large (huge!) exception of Michael Moore, who has thrown a great deal of xenophobia, jingoism, and racism at Saudi Arabia, basically blaming it for 9-11. |
Michael Moore is a hack extraordinaire, but he seems to know what works. He is certainly a black eye on the left, and his popularity with liberals is pretty damning. |
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stillnotking
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| jkelly80 wrote: |
| The right wing of American politics is guilty of more xenophobia, crass jingoism, and racism than the left. |
I'll concur, as long as you grant the large (huge!) exception of Michael Moore, who has thrown a great deal of xenophobia, jingoism, and racism at Saudi Arabia, basically blaming it for 9-11. |
Saudi Arabia is substantially to blame for 9/11. The hijackers were Saudis almost to a man, a product of the deliberate fostering of Wahhabism by the Saudi royals (on the theory that a populace drugged into submission by oil wealth and ecstatic religion will be easier to oppress). The Saudi dynasty is a tiny group of parasites, barely keeping themselves afloat on a vast ocean of discontent and Islamism, saying one thing to Americans and something entirely different to their own people. The only good word one can say about them is that they are more liberal than their subjects, and that is saying very little indeed.
The Saudi-American "friendship" that obtains today is a product of their legacy of staunch anti-Communism and the network of powerful alliances they made with American moneyed interests during the Cold War. The Saudi rulers are not the friends of the American people; still less are the Saudi people our friends.
It's telling that conservatives are so willing to excoriate Moore for implying Saudi culpability for 9/11, and yet so willing to excuse Bush for implying Iraqi culpability -- a far more ridiculous and damaging charge. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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| stillnotking wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| jkelly80 wrote: |
| The right wing of American politics is guilty of more xenophobia, crass jingoism, and racism than the left. |
I'll concur, as long as you grant the large (huge!) exception of Michael Moore, who has thrown a great deal of xenophobia, jingoism, and racism at Saudi Arabia, basically blaming it for 9-11. |
Saudi Arabia is substantially to blame for 9/11. The hijackers were Saudis almost to a man, a product of the deliberate fostering of Wahhabism by the Saudi royals (on the theory that a populace drugged into submission by oil wealth and ecstatic religion will be easier to oppress). The Saudi dynasty is a tiny group of parasites, barely keeping themselves afloat on a vast ocean of discontent and Islamism, saying one thing to Americans and something entirely different to their own people. The only good word one can say about them is that they are more liberal than their subjects, and that is saying very little indeed.
The Saudi-American "friendship" that obtains today is a product of their legacy of staunch anti-Communism and the network of powerful alliances they made with American moneyed interests during the Cold War. The Saudi rulers are not the friends of the American people; still less are the Saudi people our friends.
It's telling that conservatives are so willing to excoriate Moore for implying Saudi culpability for 9/11, and yet so willing to excuse Bush for implying Iraqi culpability -- a far more ridiculous and damaging charge. |
Oh, please.
The Michael Moore thesis: we invaded the wrong country (Not wrong yet). The country we should have invaded was Saudi Arabia.
Its telling that crypto-leftists are willing to contemplate invading Saudi Arabia without meditating on the risks of the Iraq conflict. |
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stillnotking
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| The Michael Moore thesis: we invaded the wrong country (Not wrong yet). The country we should have invaded was Saudi Arabia. |
Cite please.
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| Its telling that crypto-leftists are willing to contemplate invading Saudi Arabia without meditating on the risks of the Iraq conflict. |
I'm no crypto-leftist, neither is Moore, and as far as I know neither one of us has ever contemplated invading Saudi Arabia. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| stillnotking wrote: |
| Kuros wrote: |
| The Michael Moore thesis: we invaded the wrong country (Not wrong yet). The country we should have invaded was Saudi Arabia. |
Cite please.
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| Its telling that crypto-leftists are willing to contemplate invading Saudi Arabia without meditating on the risks of the Iraq conflict. |
I'm no crypto-leftist, neither is Moore, and as far as I know neither one of us has ever contemplated invading Saudi Arabia. |
Oh, so when you wrote this:
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| It's telling that conservatives are so willing to excoriate Moore for implying Saudi culpability for 9/11, and yet so willing to excuse Bush for implying Iraqi culpability -- a far more ridiculous and damaging charge. |
you meant to imply that I was a conservative? |
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stillnotking
Joined: 18 Dec 2007
Location: Oregon, USA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| you meant to imply that I was a conservative? |
Nope. Again, cite please on the Moore-wants-to-invade-Saudi-Arabia claim. |
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