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Departure date later than visa expiration??
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:54 am    Post subject: Departure date later than visa expiration?? Reply with quote

My contract is up in March, and my stay period expiration date is March 25 (on my alien ID card).
The boss would like to keep me on until March 28 or 29, claiming I can stay an extra week after this date with no problems. Is this really true? I don't mind staying a few days extra in Korea, as long as I get paid for it.
Does anyone know the actual length of time one can stay in Korea after the date on your Alien ID expires? I thought there was no grace period. I don't want to be stuck with a fine as I'm leaving. Links appreciated. Thanks!
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fruitcake



Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Location: shinchon

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

someone mentioned two weeks after the expiration of your alien card. sorry, no links to verify.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no grace period. Just take your ticket home, your ARC, your passport, and yourself to your local immi office and apply for a free extension of your VISA. This extension is not for working, and can be up to 30 days. If it's longer than that, you have to pay, or if you want to work, you have to pay.

KPRROK
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also apply for an extension online at the G4F or Immigration websites.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
There is no grace period. Just take your ticket home, your ARC, your passport, and yourself to your local immi office and apply for a free extension of your VISA. This extension is not for working, and can be up to 30 days. If it's longer than that, you have to pay, or if you want to work, you have to pay.

KPRROK


This. You can get a tourist extension but not a visa extension.
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biggpoppa



Joined: 14 Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edited to save confusion

Last edited by biggpoppa on Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:22 pm; edited 1 time in total
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biggpoppa wrote:
btw, the amount of people who apply for the visa extension still continue to finish off the last few days of their contracts despite the illegal aspect of it all...i'm not condoning it, but just letting you know it's common practice...


Oh? You've done a survey have you?

OP: it is NOT common practice. You will most likely be fined. Get an extension.
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biggpoppa



Joined: 14 Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crescent wrote:
biggpoppa wrote:
btw, the amount of people who apply for the visa extension still continue to finish off the last few days of their contracts despite the illegal aspect of it all...i'm not condoning it, but just letting you know it's common practice...


Oh? You've done a survey have you?

OP: it is NOT common practice. You will most likely be fined. Get an extension.


would you like me to dig up ttompatz post on it?
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, i didn't know ttompatz did surveys either, but do you mean this post?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1545188#1545188

ttompatz wrote:
megz wrote:

i'm sorry if this is clearly posted somewhere...i can't seem to find it. i saw lots of posts about the 24 hour period to leave the country....but my school is telling me i have to go to immigration to extend my visa from february 29th (last day of contract) to march 1st (the day i leave). i don't want to pay a fine, and i don't want to make an unnecessary trip to immigration either! can somebody link me to exactly where it says 24 hours on an official korean website? please???

thanks Smile

m



It is NOT 24 hours and your employer is correct. You need an extension for even that one day.

You have 3 choices:
1) leave Korea by midnight on the last date indicated on your ARC
2) get an extension
3) pay a fine and face delays at departure time for your overstay.

To get the extension you need to show your passport, ARC and exit ticket. The extension is free.
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biggpoppa



Joined: 14 Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it doesn't exactly say common practice, but he does mention that it's known to happen

ttompatz wrote:
OK.. 2 issues... NOT 1

1) extend the work visa to match the contract.

2) get a new visa to stay in Korea until you get a new job.


for #1 - Do NOT depend on your boss to do this. If they make some mistake or are late getting it done it is YOU who gets detained at passport control, pays the fine and gets the blackmark in your immigration file.

You didn't say how long this period is (between contract completion and ARC expiry) BUT there are 2 extension types available.

The easiest is to take your EXIT TICKET, ARC and passport down to the immigration office and you can officially extend for up to 2 weeks. There have been cases (heresay) where people have been extended up to one month. You cannot legally work on this extension but people have been known to do so for one or two days to complete their contracts.

The proper way is to take: a copy of your school's registration paper, guarantor form, contract with completion date clearly indicated, YOUR ARC, passport, application and 30k won. You CAN legally work on this extension and it can be from 1 day to 1 year. IT is an extension of your E2 with all the associated restrictions and ties to your employer.

for #2 - the easiest thing to do is catch the cheapest flight / ferry out of the country and then return. Check with Cathay Pacific, EVA air or Air China (not China Air) for a cheap flight to Taiwan and back (often about 200k won).

You will get a 6 month B2 visa waiver stamp and will NOT be required to get an ARC while you are here on this stamp (even though it goes over 90 days). Find your new job and do your visa run at your convenience.

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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he meant was that there are 2 TYPES of extensions.
One of them is not used for a "work extension'. It is illegal to work on that particular extension but people have been known to do so for one or two days.

Read it again.
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biggpoppa



Joined: 14 Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i never once said that it was LEGAL to do so, but the first visa extension is the easiest, especially if you're only staying for a few days of work...less paper work and just a easier process...

again i clearly stated it was illegal, but people have worked with only extending their arc and not their work visa...

i'm not looking for an argument here cause i definitely didn't take a survey on what everyone has done or would do in this situation, just making a point that people have done it in the past...

but in defence i don't think it's accurate to say you will most likely be fined as well...those cases are few and far between...
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crescent



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

biggpoppa wrote:
btw, the amount of people who apply for the visa extension still continue to finish off the last few days of their contracts despite the illegal aspect of it all...i'm not condoning it, but just letting you know it's common practice...


I'm not looking for an argument either. But what you said is confusing, misleading and suggests that is is COMMON PRACTICE to work illegally without a visa extension.

It can cause people big problems if they think they can be part of this 'common practice'? Why even bother?

The op asked whether or not he needed an extension. YOU implied it's ok to go 1 or 2 days without one.
That will almost certainly result in a fine.

ttompatz said getting an ARC extension may not result in a fine... not avoiding an extension altogether.
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biggpoppa



Joined: 14 Jul 2007
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i should of been more clear that one of the extensions is necessary...all edited to save any confusion...my apologies
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've watched my school do this many times with employees whose contract dates ended after their Visas. Most were short term extensions, mine was for another year.

He gets the employee to sign a limited power of attorney form allowing the school to apply for an extension on their behalf. The school official goes to immigration, applies for the extension and they put a stamp on the back of your alien card. It's that easy.

Though you are allowed a grace period beyond the expiry date of your Visa, you are not allowed to work during that grace period unless you get an extension from immigration.
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