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anjucat
Joined: 26 Jul 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: high school teachers, any pearls of wisdom? |
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howdy,
just found out that i'll be working in a high school this semester. I've never done that gig before -- been here 5 years and taught elementary, middle, and a smattering of uni, but never high school. I'm sure i'll figure it out in a week or two, but i was wondering if any seasoned vets of the high school scene could drop a word or two in on what to expect or prepare for.
thanks in advance |
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teachergirltoo
Joined: 28 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: |
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I love teaching high school. You will probably have a classroom fitted with audio and an overhead projector - which makes using music and visual presentation in the classroom very easy, and great learning tools for the studnets. I have a friend who has been teaching high school here for a long time. She has prepared detailed lesson plans, powerpoint presentations, and corresponding handouts, according to the curriculum for the entire year. If you PM me I will give you her email address. I think she sells the entire year of material package for $100 to other teachers. So if you want a easy year you may want to consider it. I don't mean to be advertising for her but I heard from another teacher that got it, and he is loving not having to prep, so if you think it will help you out too I can give you the info. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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I really get angry hearing about teachers "selling" their material, resources.
It isn't rocket science and there are lots of materials available from which a teacher, even an inexperienced but "thinking" teacher can make some great curriculum from and / or support existing curriculum.
Education is not about this money grubbing stuff. We all make a good wage and unless you have something sterling and very unique, you shouldn't be making resources into a commodity. (ppts, handouts, lesson plans do not qualify at all). So I'll kindly boo your friend off the stage.
To the OP. Please take a look at the resources I and others have collected at EFL Classroom 2.0 . Thousands of ppts, handouts, a/v material etc.... click and download. Further, set up a program for those students who want to learn and send them there to use the resources for self-study.
I also recommend highly Andrew Finch's Activities to support the High School Text (I believe that is the title). PM me for more info. / availability.
DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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ddeubel wrote: |
I really get angry hearing about teachers "selling" their material, resources.
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I agree. Plus, her materials may not be suitable for your students' needs. I have bought several books and find that I still have to modify the material to suit my students' level and interests. FWIW, I have several A/V materials available here:
http://www.esnips.com/web/KHSEFL
I wish more teachers would just share what they have done, like ddeubel. Information, especially in education, should be free!
OP--What kind of HS students will you be teaching--academic ("college-bound") or technical ("commercial")? The former will most likely have higher levels of English. I teach at a tech HS and the best advice I can give you is to treat the kids like "people," not "kids." Learn what they are interested in and work hard to make your lessons relevant to those interests. A little sweat in the planning process means your classes will run a lot more smoothly.
Don't worry! In public school (as I'm sure you've experienced) you teach the same lesson several times every week, so by the 3rd or 4th time you teach it, it should be pure EFL gold! Be sure to reflect on your teaching after each class: What went well? What didn't? How can you improve the lesson for the next class?
If you plan to do pop songs then actually ask your kids what they would like to learn. Get a list of a dozen or so and you'll be set for the whole semester. In my experience, pop songs are best used after the testing period, when the kids just aren't interested in learning anything, and as a break in the curriculum when you're feeling a little burnt-out.
I use these books with my lower-level students:
Touchstone 1
New Interchange Intro
Tune In 1
Let's Talk 1
Be sure to learn your students' levels first, before spending a lot of money on books. I'd also recommend an activity book, like Zero Prep to use the first week or so, and a bilingual dictionary like Oxford Korean-English Picture Dictionary.
Be sure to pick up a set or two of class CDs with the books you buy, as well as a workbook or two for reinforcement or review questions.
Again, this is just what has worked for me. Your style and students may be completely different! |
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sargx

Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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You might have some problems with your students. For instance, probably 1/4th of them will sleep during class. Since conversation isn't really graded, a lot of them won't take it seriously. Remember, there's a reason why every teacher carries a stick with them, it's to wake their asses up. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Keeping them awake can be difficult (some of them).
I miss teaching high school. It was a wonderful 2 years. The staff at my school was great, and I had more former high school students who I hadn't seen in years come to my wedding than I had uni students. |
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teachergirltoo
Joined: 28 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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I don�t see anything wrong with other teachers selling their materials. I have a vast library of teaching books that I have collected, and paid for, through the years. I appreciate the hard work and of those teacher/authors in compiling their thoughts and ideas. I believe that if I use someone else�s material then compensating for them is totally proper. If someone were to go to a store and buy the materials off the shelf that she has produced then it would cost a much higher sum of money, so to give her a modest amount money for her hundreds of hours of hard work does not seem like a bad thing. I have attended several demo lessons in the public schools and observed that there is a vast range of what is considered interesting and beneficial teaching for the students. Some teachers just do not have the training or experience yet � not that it won�t be gained over time, but in the meanwhile working from another teacher�s materials completely, or as a framework, can be of benefit for the students and a form of training for the teacher, so he/she can see what has worked already in a large class setting of older students. However, I appreciate that there are other opinions regarding this matter and respect those that share their lesson materials for free also. |
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roknroll

Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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ddeubel wrote: |
I really get angry hearing about teachers "selling" their material, resources.
It isn't rocket science and there are lots of materials available from which a teacher, even an inexperienced but "thinking" teacher can make some great curriculum from and / or support existing curriculum.
Education is not about this money grubbing stuff. We all make a good wage and unless you have something sterling and very unique, you shouldn't be making resources into a commodity. (ppts, handouts, lesson plans do not qualify at all). So I'll kindly boo your friend off the stage.
To the OP. Please take a look at the resources I and others have collected at EFL Classroom 2.0 . Thousands of ppts, handouts, a/v material etc.... click and download. Further, set up a program for those students who want to learn and send them there to use the resources for self-study.
I also recommend highly Andrew Finch's Activities to support the High School Text (I believe that is the title). PM me for more info. / availability.
DD
http://eflclassroom.ning.com |
are you totally against any kind of remuneration dd? for instance, i personally wouldn't be offended if you made advertising revenue off your site (the indirect method i guess). i've also heard some teachers subscribing to sites for a flat fee for 6 or 12 months and they seem to appreciate it. certainly free is better, but it is their money and decision. isn't it really just another medium (mass media)? |
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Mi Yum mi
Joined: 28 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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I never hit a sleeping student with a stick. I did carry around a big watergun. That'll wake them up.
Nobody can give you much help until you find out what kind/lvl of your students. I worked at horrible place that was pretty much hell. I had to become a harda$$ and make them study/make things more fun.
You can get great students, the regular ones or you can get a school full of kids that'll pass cause their teachers can't give a D or F.
Try to make things more fun. These kids study from 9 to 9 some days.
Get back to me when you find out what lvl your kids are and if you want some ideas for low lvl evil minions from hell. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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are you totally against any kind of remuneration dd? for instance, i personally wouldn't be offended if you made advertising revenue off your site (the indirect method i guess). i've also heard some teachers subscribing to sites for a flat fee for 6 or 12 months and they seem to appreciate it. certainly free is better, but it is their money and decision. isn't it really just another medium (mass media)? |
Not totally against payment at all! In fact, I've paid quite a lot myself to other sites, either directly or donated, for their services. I think that if someone has done something of value and done it well - they should be renumerated. What I am against is when teachers think "their" daily teaching work is of some "numerical" value. Educational materials and ideas should be in the common / public pool. There should not be a question of access. Money paid should be that donated or contributed not because X teacher is trying to sell Y. In the above example - if the teacher offered the materials and then someone who used them said, "Hey, I really benefited, here's "X" dollars!", that would be fine. Why the distinction? Well in the first case, there is still access to all. In that latter, it is just a question of who has the cash.
I give to all the sites I've gotten ideas from and I think educators who can afford to, should also. But "give" not "pay".
I will set up a place for members on EFL Classroom 2.0 to advertise (actually is already is set up, I just haven't promoted/started it). It will be for members only and for a small fee they can promote their wares to teachers. There picture/link will scroll constantly in a members advertising area/box. This way, they will be part of a community and have a vested interest. Their small payment will help pay for the site/community.
I've been involved in the open source issue quite a lot. It is mostly an issue in the States and I'd ask everyone to check out the fine work both Richard Baraniuk is doing with www.connexions.org and also Amee Godwin at OER Commons www.oercommons.org , open educational resources. Larry Lessig has a sterling presentation on Ted Talks (hit the button at EFL Classroom 2.0 for a scrolling player of all the Ted lectures) about this issue. He really is amazing. Here is a quote from a recent conference in Joberg, S.A.
"This emerging open education movement combines the established tradition of sharing good ideas with fellow educators and the collaborative, interactive culture of the Internet. It is built on the belief that everyone should have the freedom to use, customize, improve and redistribute educational resources without constraint. Educators, learners and others who share this belief are gathering together as part of a worldwide effort to make education both more accessible and more effective."
I think everyone has the right to try and sell their stuff. But I also have every right to tell people not to buy -- for the sake of a better way. I just shake my head constantly at examples of teachers selling their cruddy handouts as if they were mana from god. My god!
DD
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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teachergirltoo wrote: |
I don�t see anything wrong with other teachers selling their materials. I have a vast library of teaching books that I have collected, and paid for, through the years. I appreciate the hard work and of those teacher/authors in compiling their thoughts and ideas. |
I agree, but it has to be a guide or something, and not just a collection of worksheets.
Personally, I love practical guides to teaching, with activities suggestions that can be adapted to various materials. I can't stand pre-made lessons, though, as I can't even stand using my own year to year. I'm always changing. |
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Mark7
Joined: 22 May 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:19 pm Post subject: Teaching High School |
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Teaching high school is fun. They are starting to become adults and they are really starting to hunker down for that dreaded exam.
The only downside of teaching high school is that sometimes, depending if your class is graded or not, the amount of participation you might get.
But working at the HS level means you generally get higher level kids, the tricky part is how to sort and categorize them and not alienate them from the rest of the class.
Like one poster mentioned above, doing the same lesson over and over again gives you an opportunity to refine your lessons until they are perfect. |
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Easter Clark

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: |
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With regard to the "evil minions from hell," if you want them to be interested in your class, you have to show that you're interested in them. Of course there are times when disciplinary action is unavoidable, but remember how you were in high school--did you care anything about learning a foreign language? If you had no plans to ever use it, what reason was there to try at all? And what if your teacher couldn't even speak your language to begin with--or even showed an interest in learning it?
Maybe if your teacher really took an interest in you as a person, and got away from "You must learn this" and moved toward "Let's accomplish something you didn't think you could accomplish 20 minutes ago," you would have learned something in spite of yourself! Kids are human, and accomplishment (coupled with genuine praise) feels good, I don't care who you are. After awhile it can become a drug, and once they start looking forward to your class, your problems with them will be few and far between. |
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anjucat
Joined: 26 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: |
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hey, thanks all who've responded. You've provided some sound advice and good resources.
For those who asked, this will be a tech school out in the sticks of ChungNam-do, so i'm expecting very low levels of English from the students. Any further tips on motivating slackers? |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Any further tips on motivating slackers? |
I'll give you the biggest tip I have - based on the few times I've faced that problem with lower level students. Teach them something that they are interested in.
Meaning, A) give them atleast the pretense that you are listening to their wants/wishes and they have some control over the curriculum B) Motivation, intrinsic motivation comes from their own gut -- teach them through what really interests them (cars, chicks, drawing, sports).
This is the only motivational tool that when done well, will last over a whole year.
DD
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