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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Call him what you want, but I an a little (ok, just a little) worried about him.
He's made amends for his previous hate-filled past. There's no reason to keep hammering him on this. People change over time. He grew up and out of that nonsense. It's something I've heard a lot over the years. Human beings aren't leopards, unless they want to be.
Now if only the rest of the GOP can be a forward-minded as Robert Byrd. |
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CentralCali
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| agentX wrote: |
| Now if only the rest of the GOP can be a forward-minded as Robert Byrd. |
Rest of? Byrd's a Democrat, isn't he? |
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cbclark4

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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By your own words this guy was a card carrying member in a position of leadership with a cone shaped hate the whole nine yards.
He was using the "N" word right up until recently, probably still does.
"This ex-Klansman wasn't just a passive member of the nation's most
notorious hate group. According to news accounts and biographical
information, Sen. Byrd was a "Kleagle" -- an official recruiter who signed
up members for $10 a head. He said he joined because it "offered
excitement" and because the Klan was an "effective force" in "promoting
traditional American values." Nothing like the thrill of gathering 'round a
midnight bonfire, roasting s'mores, tying nooses, and promoting white
supremacy with a bunch of your hooded friends."
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin030801.asp |
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agentX
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
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| Now if only the rest of the GOP can be a forward-minded as Robert Byrd. |
Rest of? Byrd's a Democrat, isn't he? |
Of course he is a Democrat. If Byrd can do it, why can't the GOP? |
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cbclark4

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:22 am Post subject: |
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"Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds." -- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1944, after he quit the KKK.
"I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state .... The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia .... It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va .... I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities." -- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1946, after he quit the KKK.
http://www.rightwingnews.com/quotes/leftwingracists.php |
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Rteacher

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: |
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The KKK was probably encouraged in their racist views by Charles Darwin's writings:
...It may surprise some people to find out the dark truth about Darwin, but the fact remains nevertheless that he did indeed propose in his second major work, The Descent of Man, that certain races of human beings were actually sub-species, that a race war among mankind's different races, with the extermination of one race and the survival of another, would bring beneficial results in evolutionary terms, and he did explicitly state that black people were intermediate on the evolutionary ladder between apes and white people. He also wrote that it was his hope that in the near future blacks, aborigines, and the African gorillas would become extinct, thus enhancing the evolutionary potential of the Caucasian race...
...Further on in his Descent Darwin elaborates on this theme, describing his dream of a future for mankind when the black races of man, as well as the mountain gorilla of Africa, will hopefully become extinct, thus enhancing the chances for the evolutionary advancement of the more "civilized" races of man:
"At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked, will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla." (Descent of Man, Chapter Six: On the Affinities and Geneology of Man, On the Birthplace and Antiquity of Man)
Darwin proposed in horrifying and explicit language that black Africans and Australian aborigines occupied a sub-species position between white Europeans and baboons! He not only stated this as his belief, but proposed that in the near future "as we may hope" according to his evolutionary theory, these "sub-races" of man will eventually be exterminated in a struggle for survival, along with the endangered mountain gorilla of Africa!
http://www.thedarwinpapers.com/oldsite/number12/Darwinpapers12HTML.htm
I haven't noticed "cbclark4" going after Darwin on the big evolution thread... |
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Nowhere Man

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:30 am Post subject: ... |
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It's kind of unfortunate that a former Klansman was the most vocal critic of the 2003 invasion. That says as much about America circa 2003 as it does Byrd.
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Tut tut. Put this on your thread, not here. |
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CentralCali
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| agentX wrote: |
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| agentX wrote: |
| Now if only the rest of the GOP can be a forward-minded as Robert Byrd. |
Rest of? Byrd's a Democrat, isn't he? |
Of course he is a Democrat. If Byrd can do it, why can't the GOP? |
Not too up on the intricacies of the language late at night, huh?
BTW, cbclark: You're still being dishonest in the way you're quoting the man. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| I'm off the clockkk. |
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stillnotking

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:50 am Post subject: |
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I grew up in West Virginia. Believe me, I know Robert Byrd. I even met him once, on a school field trip to Washington in the '80s. He was in the news almost constantly for bringing various projects to West Virginia.
You guys want the skinny on Byrd? He's a politician of the old school. He's more in the Huey Long mold than anything we've got these days: a panderer nonpareil, an utterly shameless pork-barreler, an absolute master of Senate nuance, and a peerless orator. He did a tremendous amount of good for West Virginia and he didn't care at whose expense.
Is he a racist? No way. I don't give him credit for any kind of deeply held ideological views, one way or the other. He's a Byrdist and a West Virginia-ist, but that's about all. He's not a bad man, really; his sort of man doesn't have the capacity to be either truly bad, or truly good. He's an American archetype that is rarely seen these days, a throwback to a narrower and simpler form of politics. West Virginia will mourn him greatly; the rest of the country probably won't much care, and probably shouldn't. |
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stevemcgarrett

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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Of course, Byrd has long since recanted his Klan allegiance but he still has one egregious fault--he's an idiot that puts the hill in hillbilly.
You'd think West Virginian voters would have put him out to pasture decades ago. But then South Carolinians kept Strom Thurmond in office until he was almost a cadaver. |
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gypsyfish
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Of course, Byrd has long since recanted his Klan allegiance but he still has one egregious fault--he's an idiot that puts the hill in hillbilly.
You'd think West Virginian voters would have put him out to pasture decades ago. But then South Carolinians kept Strom Thurmond in office until he was almost a cadaver. |
... the hill in hillbilly? I still say people from Appalachia are one of the last groups that dick weeds feel fine about making rude and candescending statements about.
As far as why West Virginians have continued to put him in office, it's already been discussed. He looks out for his constituents. If you're not from West by gawd, you might be pissed that your state didn't get the largesse, so take that up with your representatives. But no, it's so much easier to throw stones at 'hillbillys'. Keep it up; it shows your ignorance, not the ignorance of West Virginian mountaineers. |
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cbclark4

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:01 am Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| agentX wrote: |
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| agentX wrote: |
| Now if only the rest of the GOP can be a forward-minded as Robert Byrd. |
Rest of? Byrd's a Democrat, isn't he? |
Of course he is a Democrat. If Byrd can do it, why can't the GOP? |
Not too up on the intricacies of the language late at night, huh?
BTW, cbclark: You're still being dishonest in the way you're quoting the man. |
Show me the dishonesty.
Show me one quote that I posted that is not attributed to Robert Byrd of the KKK. |
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Nowhere Man

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| This thread brought to you by cbclarke of Springfield Elementary School. |
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