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flummuxt
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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 Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: Shoting fish IN A barrell!!!!! Quotable Korean ESL ads. |
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I was curious what was doing over on the Korean job board salarywise and decided to take a look see.
Boy, did I get an eyeful, grammarwise.
One recruiter could use a little help from Mr. Spellcheck, and another may have put a little too much faith in Mr. S.
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| Two reliable teachers needed in a realiable school in Jeju in June |
And then there's
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JUST Seat back and CLICK for further UPDATED positions in March and April!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
I wonder what they plan to do to you after they get your seat back and click?
Of course, if you don't see any typos here, feel free to apply. You'll do just fine.
Here's another one that kinda pops out at you:
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University/Public school/Private institue positions are available now!!!!! |
These Koreans sure are exclamation happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The body of these ads weren't any better than their headers. Here's some more from the third one:
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I'm glad to introduce few current positions below list.
I won't mention too much detail now. I know you will not read too long annoucemnet because of it might made you tired. |
This isn't just bad English; this is an insult to one's intelligence. Just out of curiosity, is there anyone reading this who is stupid enough to apply for work from this moron?
And what's with the creative capitalization?
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| JOBS IN KOREA - Tell me What you are LOOKING For, I AM sure I CAN find you a GOOD JOB!!! SEE HERE! |
Here's one that says A LOT about the Ministry OF Education, if true:
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We�re cool recruiting agency^^
You can find wonderful teaching jobs by TeachEng.
We have been selected by the Korean Ministry of Education as a designated recruiting agency officially
If you can't find an area that you would wish to work that hasn't been mentioned as below listed, please contact us. |
Call me Mr. Fastidious, but I like periods at the end of my sentences. And I am still trying to sort out the double negative in that last sentence.
Of course, finding mistakes in Korean recruiter ads is about as challenging as shooting fish in a barrel.
Nevertheless, any other English-challenged ads out there worth a chuckle????????????????????
For comparison, try going over to the international job board. While there were the occasional typo, they looked reasonably professional.
One job even offered a free bicycle. That sure beats a bag of rice. |
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PGF
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:56 am Post subject: |
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are you a recruiter from the canadia looking to make those shifty eyed korean recruiters look bad?
.... if you think Korean recruiters have bad English-e, you should visit some public schools and listen to what comes out of a Korean English-e teacher's mouth...or is it teachers' mouth?
Then, when you get sick of listening to the ones who are "qualified" to teach English-e, walk into a hagwon and listen to the ones with hotel hospitality degrees teach English-e....
If you get tired of all that fun....go to Seoul and visit the advertising company for SK Telecom and quiz the guy who came up with 11st for SK's new ad campaign.
It doesn't end there. If you really want to have fun, read some things that a few FTs have written. I guarantee you 2/3rds are borderline proficient....... at least the Koreans have an excuse....you know, it being Korea and shit
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flummuxt
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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PGF:
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| are you a recruiter from the canadia .... |
canadia? What makes you think that? Heck, what makes you say that?
No, I am not from Canada.
I was just pointing out the amusingly bad English used in Korean recruiter ads. We all know it's there 'cause we've all read them before. But that doesn't mean we should get used to it and accept it. Next thing you know we'll be treating Konglish like Black English, saying bad grammar and pronunciation is a right of cultural expression.
Look at the ads on the international board:
http://www.eslcafe.com/joblist/
Look at the ads on the China board:
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/china/
How much bad English do you see?
Not much.
Now look at the ads on the Korean board:
http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/
How many badly written ads do you see?
A lot.
And Korea wonders why so many Westerners can't teach English? It's not our fault; it is because no one in the hiring process can. Kimmi is obsessing about all the wrong things. If you don't get competent English speakers you are not going to get competent English teachers. And you ain't gonna get em with recruiters who are virtually illiterate. WTF are they paying them 1 or 2 million won for?
But apparently the people running the show -- either at the hagwon, the public school, or Kimmi et al -- don't know the recruiters are incompetent in English because they speak even less English themselves.
And these Bozos say that in two years they are going to be teaching all academic high school subjects in English, and in 10 years they are going to have the highest rate of English literacy in Asia.
Now let's see, what's a six-letter word describing someone who is out of touch with reality and that starts with the letter "I" ?
One more thing. There are plenty of Westerners who can't spell or write grammatically. I have little tolerance for such people. So, yes, the fault lies in part with the incompetent Native speakers, no doubt about it.
But casual posting on a discussion board like this is another matter. Even professional writers make mistakes on the first draft. And this sans serif font is damn hard to see on a laptop; it is too small. So we should not judge minor mistakes in postings as if they are a test of English ability. Nevertheless, there are times when it does worry me.
Oh, and when you are writing a post about someone else's bad grammar and spelling, do try to proof read it. |
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PGF
Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: |
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I like to think of it as job security....
As long as there are those out there that need English or want English and there is a shortage of Koreans who can teach English-e, I'm in business.
Will this country ever speak Eng proficiently on a large scale? No, and that's ok. I care about teaching my students effectively. A few bad FTs here and there only make me look more attractive to schools, businesses and individuals, so I don't really want all the bad teachers expelled or anything either.
I guess I just like to look on the bright side.... |
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Intrepid
Joined: 13 May 2004
Location: Yongin
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:47 am Post subject: Job security |
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Job security--exactly. Even their best graduates can't teach writing (heck, most Yanks/Canucks/Brits can't, either).
Still, an unfair poke--try writing something in Korean! Whenever I make an attempt I'm flabbergasted at how hard it is to write in a non-Roman-script language. Even text messages from friends who don't speak English--I usually just call back. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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No more hunting, do not waste your time. We�ve got your tasty already!
The original intent is more fun than picking on each other... |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I've noticed quite a few requiring a "criminal record." |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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If U R YOUNG & WHITE, U R ALRIGHT @ Bundang Kids Club!!!
Wonderful kids! Salary negotiable. Excellent housing in Ori-Station area. Paid vacation. Optional medical insurance. Lunch provided at school. Year-end bonus (if you complete one year). Round-trip airfare to overseas applicants (return ticket only after one-year of employment). Beautiful, modern area. No experience necessary. Come and join the fun!
Please read the following information. Then, if you have any questions or comments, feel free to call Gina Song any time, seven days a week, at 011-9334-4303. Otherwise, to apply, simply email resume with recent, full-body color photo (videos also welcome!) and introduction to [email protected]. We look forward to your response!
We are looking for young (20's), cheerful (smile!) teachers who fit our image of native English-speakers/Americans. By law, you must be a college graduate. Average-weight (or thin) people are preferred. Also, please, no Australians/New Zealanders/Irish/etc. Brits may be considered under special circumstances. (Of course no non-native English speakers or ethnic minorities.) Korean citizens/Kyopos with native-like English skills may be hired temporarily, and college degree is not required of them.
One-year contract required (by law). Please note, however, that cultural differences exist with respect to contracts. Here is a quote from http://www.aacircle.com.au/teach-in-korea.htm :
"English teachers in Korea occasionally have contract disputes with their employers. In the Korean context, a contract is simply a rough working agreement, subject to change depending upon the circumstances. Most Koreans do not view deviations from a contract as a breach of contract, and few Koreans would consider taking an employer to court over a contract dispute." We don't think you will take us to court, either!
On a lighter note, our current foreign teachers are great to work with. Just ask Gina for contact info to find out first-hand what the teachers think about working at Bundang Kids Club! ^^
(Not necessarily affiliated with other institutes that also use the name, "Kids Club".) |
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Easter Clark
Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| SHOCK PULL-OUT From Rejected Paperwork For PRIVATE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL in Seoul |
Not sure what to make of that one! Or the tone of this one from Work n Play:
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| Haven't you found anything yet? Here are public schools and private schools with full benefits... |
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Burndog
Joined: 17 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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If U R YOUNG & WHITE, U R ALRIGHT @ Bundang Kids Club!!!
Wonderful kids! Salary negotiable. Excellent housing in Ori-Station area. Paid vacation. Optional medical insurance. Lunch provided at school. Year-end bonus (if you complete one year). Round-trip airfare to overseas applicants (return ticket only after one-year of employment). Beautiful, modern area. No experience necessary. Come and join the fun!
Please read the following information. Then, if you have any questions or comments, feel free to call Gina Song any time, seven days a week, at 011-9334-4303. Otherwise, to apply, simply email resume with recent, full-body color photo (videos also welcome!) and introduction to [email protected]. We look forward to your response!
We are looking for young (20's), cheerful (smile!) teachers who fit our image of native English-speakers/Americans. By law, you must be a college graduate. Average-weight (or thin) people are preferred. Also, please, no Australians/New Zealanders/Irish/etc. Brits may be considered under special circumstances. (Of course no non-native English speakers or ethnic minorities.) Korean citizens/Kyopos with native-like English skills may be hired temporarily, and college degree is not required of them.
One-year contract required (by law). Please note, however, that cultural differences exist with respect to contracts. Here is a quote from http://www.aacircle.com.au/teach-in-korea.htm :
"English teachers in Korea occasionally have contract disputes with their employers. In the Korean context, a contract is simply a rough working agreement, subject to change depending upon the circumstances. Most Koreans do not view deviations from a contract as a breach of contract, and few Koreans would consider taking an employer to court over a contract dispute." We don't think you will take us to court, either!
On a lighter note, our current foreign teachers are great to work with. Just ask Gina for contact info to find out first-hand what the teachers think about working at Bundang Kids Club! ^^
(Not necessarily affiliated with other institutes that also use the name, "Kids Club".) |
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Would anyone in their right mind actually apply for this position? Even if they were the right age, weight and race? |
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LostinKSpace
Joined: 17 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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If U R YOUNG & WHITE, U R ALRIGHT @ Bundang Kids Club!!!
Wonderful kids! Salary negotiable. Excellent housing in Ori-Station area. Paid vacation. Optional medical insurance. Lunch provided at school. Year-end bonus (if you complete one year). Round-trip airfare to overseas applicants (return ticket only after one-year of employment). Beautiful, modern area. No experience necessary. Come and join the fun!
Please read the following information. Then, if you have any questions or comments, feel free to call Gina Song any time, seven days a week, at 011-9334-4303. Otherwise, to apply, simply email resume with recent, full-body color photo (videos also welcome!) and introduction to [email protected]. We look forward to your response!
We are looking for young (20's), cheerful (smile!) teachers who fit our image of native English-speakers/Americans. By law, you must be a college graduate. Average-weight (or thin) people are preferred. Also, please, no Australians/New Zealanders/Irish/etc. Brits may be considered under special circumstances. (Of course no non-native English speakers or ethnic minorities.) Korean citizens/Kyopos with native-like English skills may be hired temporarily, and college degree is not required of them.
One-year contract required (by law). Please note, however, that cultural differences exist with respect to contracts. Here is a quote from http://www.aacircle.com.au/teach-in-korea.htm :
"English teachers in Korea occasionally have contract disputes with their employers. In the Korean context, a contract is simply a rough working agreement, subject to change depending upon the circumstances. Most Koreans do not view deviations from a contract as a breach of contract, and few Koreans would consider taking an employer to court over a contract dispute." We don't think you will take us to court, either!
On a lighter note, our current foreign teachers are great to work with. Just ask Gina for contact info to find out first-hand what the teachers think about working at Bundang Kids Club! ^^
(Not necessarily affiliated with other institutes that also use the name, "Kids Club".) |
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This is a joke right ? Howver it wouldn't surprise me if it were for real, sad really |
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littlelisa
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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If U R YOUNG & WHITE, U R ALRIGHT @ Bundang Kids Club!!!
Wonderful kids! Salary negotiable. Excellent housing in Ori-Station area. Paid vacation. Optional medical insurance. Lunch provided at school. Year-end bonus (if you complete one year). Round-trip airfare to overseas applicants (return ticket only after one-year of employment). Beautiful, modern area. No experience necessary. Come and join the fun!
Please read the following information. Then, if you have any questions or comments, feel free to call Gina Song any time, seven days a week, at 011-9334-4303. Otherwise, to apply, simply email resume with recent, full-body color photo (videos also welcome!) and introduction to [email protected]. We look forward to your response!
We are looking for young (20's), cheerful (smile!) teachers who fit our image of native English-speakers/Americans. By law, you must be a college graduate. Average-weight (or thin) people are preferred. Also, please, no Australians/New Zealanders/Irish/etc. Brits may be considered under special circumstances. (Of course no non-native English speakers or ethnic minorities.) Korean citizens/Kyopos with native-like English skills may be hired temporarily, and college degree is not required of them.
One-year contract required (by law). Please note, however, that cultural differences exist with respect to contracts. Here is a quote from http://www.aacircle.com.au/teach-in-korea.htm :
"English teachers in Korea occasionally have contract disputes with their employers. In the Korean context, a contract is simply a rough working agreement, subject to change depending upon the circumstances. Most Koreans do not view deviations from a contract as a breach of contract, and few Koreans would consider taking an employer to court over a contract dispute." We don't think you will take us to court, either!
On a lighter note, our current foreign teachers are great to work with. Just ask Gina for contact info to find out first-hand what the teachers think about working at Bundang Kids Club! ^^
(Not necessarily affiliated with other institutes that also use the name, "Kids Club".) |
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This is a joke right ? Howver it wouldn't surprise me if it were for real, sad really |
It's real. There was a thread about it before. |
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: Re: Shoting fish IN A barrell!!!!! Quotable Korean ESL ads. |
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Shoting fish IN A barrell!!!!! Quotable Korean ESL ads. |
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Of course, if you don't see any typos here, feel free to apply. You'll do just fine.
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Is that what they mean by irony -- when some inexplicably self-confident, condescending waygukkin male on Dave's decides to rag on the benighted Koreans for deficiencies in their English spelling and grammar skills when said native speaker can't even get the first word of his subject heading correct?
How would that attitude best be characterized? Snotty or snooty?  
I liked this one a lot also:
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Of course, finding mistakes in Korean recruiter ads is about as challenging as shooting fish in a barrel.
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But I'm inclined to re-write it just a tiny bit:
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| Of course, finding mistakes by inexplicably self-confident, condescending young waygukkin males on Dave's is about as challenging as shooting fish in a barrel. |
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Burndog
Joined: 17 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: Shoting fish IN A barrell!!!!! Quotable Korean ESL ads. |
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when said native speaker can't even get the first word of his subject heading correct?
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I thought that the heading was deliberately incorrect...hence the capital IN?  |
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flummuxt
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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R. S. Refugee:
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flummuxt wrote:
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| Shoting fish IN A barrell!!!!! Quotable Korean ESL ads. |
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flummuxt wrote:
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| Of course, if you don't see any typos here, feel free to apply. You'll do just fine |
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Is that what they mean by irony -- when some inexplicably self-confident, condescending waygukkin male on Dave's decides to rag on the benighted Koreans for deficiencies in their English spelling and grammar skills when said native speaker can't even get the first word of his subject heading correct?
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Typos?
I don't see any typos in my writing!
Perhaps you could be more specific, please.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
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