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flummuxt

Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| 1 in 100 US citizens is a criminal |
Shoot, it's more than that. They didn't count Congress. |
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esetters21

Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1 in 100 US citizens is a criminal |
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| America shows all of it's stats, Korea doesn't. More importantly, Korean cops do crap, and the courts actually force people to settle out of court for money instead of actually trying (sp?) someone and punishing them. |
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The Grumpy Senator

Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Location: Up and down the 6 line
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Another Goldmember's awesome insight!
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Why thank you, yes I do have awesome insight.
Actually I'm not that smart, it's what happened in the former Soviet Union.
Crim:Hey starving North Korean soldier, wanna sell me that AK47 for $20?
Soldier: Make it 30 and I'll throw in an RPG
Crim: Deal
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Me: Hey starving North Korean officer, I'll swap you that out of date tank, for a case of Soju
Officer: Throw in a pack of Kimchi, and you've got yourself a deal.
So all of a sudden a cop whose too scared to give a ticket to an Adjoshi who is older than him is going to have the guts to tackle an AK47 wielding psycho. Yea right. |
Would the unification of East and West Germany be a better comparison than Russia? In the case of Germany, there was a sound, structured democratic system to ensure the transition of the people in East Germany. Russia on the other hand, had to install a government and there was a period of power-struggle where local "warlords" controlled their "territory;" hence the soldiers selling their arms. The huge land area came into play as well, too big an area to control from Moscow with so many fighting for their own interests (the Stans, Ukraine, Chechnya...).
With the presence of the US army and the South Korean government most likely being prevailing government, I doubt we will see the same thing that happened in the former Soviet Union. |
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anyway

Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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With the presence of the US army and the South Korean government most likely being prevailing government, I doubt we will see the same thing that happened in the former Soviet Union. |
Yea, right, look at the weapons trading being done BY the US military and arms brokers in IRAQ!
FOOL! Do you really think the US is going to stick around after reunification??
US prison population = slaves. The rich finally figured out a way to replace the slaves they used to own. Plus, they get taxpayer money to house, feed, and clothe them. Corporate wet dream. |
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The Grumpy Senator

Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Location: Up and down the 6 line
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| With China becoming the world's biggest economy in the next 10-15 years and their military growing like it is, you think the US will pull out if Korea? |
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ryouga013
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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'Criminals' and 'people in prison' are not the same thing.
In the US people are crazy about sending people to jail, fines, marks on your permanent record, and other things that are
recorded for all time and eternity unlike many other countries.
I laughed at the Nigeria stat because there aren't enough jails or police force to keep many in jail. Hell, in the US you'd probably get put in prison for any of those email scams that are so popular coming from Nigeria.
China doesn't put too many people in prison, but they do have a "special bus you can ride!" if you're one of the lucky 6,000-8,000 "contestants" to play.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm
Korea, as stated before, loves to settle out of court. Well, they don't but that's what they are told they love to do by the older person that they hit because the older person had the right of way, regardless of what that pesky red light indicated.
Basically, yeah, on paper there are more Americans that are criminals by far. That doesn't mean that there are more criminal minded people in the US or that other countries are better at controlling crime.
(*it might still be true, but this fact alone does NOT make it so) |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007 Location: Daejeon
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| It is pointless to compare the number of people in jail, charged, or arrested from country to country because each country has different laws, standards of enforcement, and punishments for breaking laws. Beating a guy with a metal bar will land you in jail in the USA or Canada and in Korea you get away with giving the guy 20 000 000 Won. How can you compare the two? |
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anyway

Joined: 22 Oct 2005
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| With China becoming the world's biggest economy in the next 10-15 years and their military growing like it is, you think the US will pull out if Korea? |
Not pull out. Get kicked out... |
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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So 1 in 100 people in the US are in prison.
Big Deal!
In Korea 100 in 100 of all Foreign English Teachers are either:
Druggies
Pedos
Alchos
Sickos
Pervs
Losers
Hows that for a high success rate! |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| It's good if only 1% are criminals. That's about the same % as those with schizophrenia. I would guess at least 10% of us, all over the world, are messed up enough, even if not disposed to crime. |
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SOOHWA101
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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I�m rather surprised that none of you liberally educated, bleeding hearts haven�t offered reason or justification for these numbers. You most certainly do in other conversations that suit your agenda.
Watchdogs and �Sunshine� laws make these stats difficult to fudge, unlike in other countries. I agree that something is wrong, which I attribute to very strict laws, local and state entities cheating the Federal Govt for money, and of course the race/economic dilemma.
"If recent incarceration rates remain unchanged, an estimated 1 of every 15 persons (6.6%) will serve time in a prison during their lifetime."
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm#lifetime
As far as the availability of firearms�well�.all the people that I know that deserve to own them pose zero threat to social harmony. Although a gun safes should be mandatory. |
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CeleryMan
Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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| More people in jail means an abundant supply of cheap labor for American corporations and local government. Longer incarceration increases the likelihood of parole violations which keeps the machine running. It's no coincidence Black males and other undocumented minorities comprise a disproportionate percentage of the inmate population.. no payroll tax, workers compensation, or health care costs. It's tragic but a brilliant system nonetheless. |
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