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Health insurance options for F-visas
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ujin821



Joined: 25 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:05 am    Post subject: Health insurance options for F-visas Reply with quote

I was wondering what health insurance options are available (and how much they cost) for people with F-visas who don't get health insurance from any jobs they work at.

I figure I could directly enroll with NHIC but I was wondering how much it costs seeing that it won't be a percentage that is deducted from my wages.

Also, I've heard of AIG having insurance in Korea. Any idea on how that is or how much it costs, and if it is better than NHIC? Any other non-government companies that are notable?



I am aware that there is health insurance info in the FAQs section but they are a couple years old. The search function on this forum is pretty bad, too...
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have an F visa, you should be covered, automatically, by your spouse's NHI, if she/he works, or whoever insures your spouse - parents, for example.
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victorology



Joined: 10 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of visa are you on? I don't know if it applies to all F visa holders but F-4 holders are required to have insurance through the NHIC. Let's say you've been here on an F-4 visa for a year and just now decide to get insurance. They will retroactively bill you for the past year. You buy insurance 3 months at a time and it runs about 60,000 won per month.

You might want to check real quick because you might be required to pay insurance.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have an F-4 like I do, you have to pay for insurance yourself, usually around 53,000 won a month. The catch is, to get the insurance if your employer won't sponsor you, you have to pay for all the months you were NOT insured (a boneheaded retarded rule). For example, if you entered Korea in Jan. 2005 and didn't apply for health insurance until Jan. 2006, you have to pay for all of 2005 though you received no coverage.

The best way to get it is to either have your employer get it for you or get it as soon as you get your visa.
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agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

victorology wrote:
They will retroactively bill you for the past year.


Yaya wrote:
The catch is, to get the insurance if your employer won't sponsor you, you have to pay for all the months you were NOT insured (a boneheaded retarded rule).


What is it: just the past year or all months (could be many years of non-NHIC service) since you've been in Korea. This doesn't affect me, as I've paid from "day one" (to borrow a line from Clinton or whoever started that phrase), but it'd be helpful for others to know either way.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am an F2, and although I have the basic national insurance from my Uni, I have a meeting with Samsung Health Insurance this Thursday for addtional coverage on about everything else.

My wife set up a Korean agent to come with the help of an interpreter. I bet he wouldn't mind the opportunity to sell more policies.

Anyone want to tag along? They're meeting me in my office on Thursday evening at 6pm. I live not far from Hyewha.

She actually has two policies on herself: 98,000 won per month for Samsung Insurance to cover accidents and diseases, and $23 for AIG that covers just cancer. She said it's cheaper for women. We'll find out what it costs for men on Thursday.

As I understand it, he will be presenting two different policy options. PM me if you'd like to join us.
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agoodmouse



Joined: 20 Dec 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd actually take you up on that offer if Thursday night wasn't the second day of my evening Korean class at SNU. Thanks for offering.

Let me know what documents (e.g. medical history, previous insurance policies/history) from America the insurance agent requires. Maybe it's just required that you go through a thorough medical exam in Korea and that's it? Please tell me what hoops the agent requires you to jump through, as it'd be insightful for other foreigners, myself included, to know how sign-up procedures for health insurance are done here.
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Chris Kwon



Joined: 23 Jan 2008
Location: North Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wtf as soon as I get my f4, even if I don't have a job, I have to get insurance????? WHY!
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victorology



Joined: 10 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Kwon wrote:
Wtf as soon as I get my f4, even if I don't have a job, I have to get insurance????? WHY!


I can't tell you why but yes, you do have to get insurance. I didn't get insurance until 4 months after I got my F4 and had to pay for those 4 months anyway.
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The Grumpy Senator



Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Kwon wrote:
Wtf as soon as I get my f4, even if I don't have a job, I have to get insurance????? WHY!


It is National Health Care. Everyone is covered, so everyone must contribute to the system. If you were not covered for a month, you must pay for that month once you are covered. Auto Insurance in America is the same way. You cannot be denied care and so you cannot pay for insurance only when you go to the doctor.
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ujin821



Joined: 25 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet, thanks for all your responses. I'm on an F-4, so it seems I'll have to get the NHIC and pay for the few months I haven't paid.

I guess it then boils down to whether or not I need/want any supplementary insurance. I'm healthy enough to say no, but if there is something out there that is an extra 10-40k a month to cover an extra 25+% over the base 50% coverage, I would consider it. Any known insurances for something like that? Someone mentioned the Samsung insurance above and the AIG insurances as some examples, but I'm thinking about something cheaper and /or less specific. If nothing like that exists, I think the NHIC sounds fine enough

Thanks a bunch
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

agoodmouse wrote:
I'd actually take you up on that offer if Thursday night wasn't the second day of my evening Korean class at SNU. Thanks for offering.

Let me know what documents (e.g. medical history, previous insurance policies/history) from America the insurance agent requires. Maybe it's just required that you go through a thorough medical exam in Korea and that's it? Please tell me what hoops the agent requires you to jump through, as it'd be insightful for other foreigners, myself included, to know how sign-up procedures for health insurance are done here.


Will let you know what he says, mouse.
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harryh



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: south of Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post

Last edited by harryh on Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:08 am; edited 1 time in total
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harryh



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My wife and I have the NHIC insurance. Between us we pay 88,000 a month at the moment, obviously it'll be different for people with different incomes.

I have taken out a life & health insurance policy with Hyundai Marine & Fire Insurance, which sets me back 130,000 won. My wife pays 100,000 won for the same policy. After a set period, we'll get a percentage back.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no health insurance because I'd have to pay THREE years of premiums for a period that I was uninsured. I hope to get a full-time job instead of working freelance so that my company can take care of it, but I will not pay more than 3 million won just to get into the insurance system.
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