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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coolsage wrote:
Yes, some Koreans seem to have unrealistic illusions about their place in the world.

As do we all to a certain extent (human nature being what it is).

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I've heard students say (and these are some of the best and brightest that this country has to offer up), that Korea will be one of three big political and economic powers in twenty years or so.

Well, you have to admire the unbridled optimism of youth! If you look at how far they've come in the last 50 years (near the bottom of 170 or so countries to 11th) it might not be as utterly ridiculous as it first appears; stranger things have happened [but if I were a betting man I still wouldn't put a wooden nickel on that horse].
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

65 or so billion from the US hasn't hurt in that 50 year rush I'd say.

The mindset here is very much against them achieving their goals.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Historically, Korea has been considered a prized possesion in East Asia. So, it would make some sense for companies basing EAST Asian operations in Korea. The biggest problem with any ambitous plan in Korea is North Korea. As long as North Korea is around, East Asia (Korea, Japan and China) will be considered unstable to the rest of the world. Strangely, East Asia is probably the most stable part of Asia. In the end, the continued prosperity of China, a unified Korea and Japan are the essential keys for the future prosperity of Asia (at least East and South East Asia). Instead of being the 'Hub of Asia' it is better suited as being the 'Hub of East Asia'. Since, Asia is culturally divided into 4 spheres which are East Asia, South East Asia, South Asia and Western Asia (Middle East).
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Arthur Fonzerelli



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

c'mon everyone knows that korea is the hub of asia and canada is the center of the world.....
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arthur Fonzerelli wrote:
c'mon everyone knows that korea is the hub of asia and canada is the center of the world.....

C'est ca.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, some Koreans seem to have unrealistic illusions about their place in the world


The reason mostly is their media. it keeps plugging into their mind so many pointless statistics and facts and saying on current growth trends Korea will be in the top 3 in the world. There is no way Korea will sustain the growth it has in the last 20 years.
Also, the media is so influential here, if you keep hearing the same thing over and over then eventually you will believe it(take the fan death thing for example). All these Korean business analysts get on Tv and because they are high-ranking of course they don't tell lies.
Did you ever notice how Korea always ranks itself against the rest of the world. Every day i hear some new statistic about something comparing itself against other countries. If it beats the US or Japan, even if its something like Kichi eaten per square metre Smile then it becomes propoganda and shows that Kore is becoming a superpower.
I'm not knocking Korea and I do like it here but often i think a reality check is in order. i know over time this will happen as more and more people are exposed to foreigners and other countries. I just wish it would hurry up.
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indytrucks



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
Also, the media is so influential here, if you keep hearing the same thing over and over then eventually you will believe it(take the fan death thing for example). All these Korean business analysts get on Tv and because they are high-ranking of course they don't tell lies.


Yeah, god knows the media in other countries doesn't say the same thing over and over ...

"I did not have sex with that woman."

"It's about WMDs, not regime change."



Give me a break. Rolling Eyes Is it so offensive to people that Koreans have an aspiration to become a leading world power, and therby promote themselves by capitalising on positive statistics and information? I don't think I've ever seen a news report, in any country that goes ...

"In today's news ... well, we're trying to look upwardly mobile, but all we've really done is inflate the numbers to make ourselves look better than we really are. We have no hope in hell of ever becoming a leading world nation. We're crap."

Puhleese.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
just because wrote:
Also, the media is so influential here, if you keep hearing the same thing over and over then eventually you will believe it(take the fan death thing for example). All these Korean business analysts get on Tv and because they are high-ranking of course they don't tell lies.


Yeah, god knows the media in other countries doesn't say the same thing over and over ...

"I did not have sex with that woman."

"It's about WMDs, not regime change."



Give me a break. Rolling Eyes Is it so offensive to people that Koreans have an aspiration to become a leading world power, and therby promote themselves by capitalising on positive statistics and information? I don't think I've ever seen a news report, in any country that goes ...

"In today's news ... well, we're trying to look upwardly mobile, but all we've really done is inflate the numbers to make ourselves look better than we really are. We have no hope in hell of ever becoming a leading world nation. We're crap."

Puhleese.


Not a news program, sure, but a few weeks back I caught part of an entertainment program on TV that had an interviewer going around a college campus asking people, "Which nation do you think will be most powerful twenty years from now?" Well, the hosts back in the studio said that the goal was to have ten interviewees in a row say "Korea". Surprisingly enough, they got about seven "Korea!"s ina row, until one unfortunate young man said "China" and he was berated soundly by the hosts and the interviewer.

Rolling Eyes
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw that show, it was on a Sunday night. It was just about getting the same 10 answers in a row, but they would always say Korea.

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Give me a break. Is it so offensive to people that Koreans have an aspiration to become a leading world power, and therby promote themselves by capitalising on positive statistics and information?


No, i have no problem with this. I'm all for Korea advancing as a nation. The point I'm making is that most people take it as a certainty that Korea will be the best. If this happened in my home country in Australia we would be laughing in the streets about how stupid that would sound.
Point taken.
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Part of "advancing" as a nation is not having to make bragging rights about the most superfluous, dumbest sh@t. Take the ages-old "four distinct seasons" braggadocio, for example.

Travel "hubs" don't use jingoism as a lure, unless they are fishing for trouble.


Cheers,

Joe
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Did you ever notice how Korea always ranks itself against the rest of the world. Every day i hear some new statistic about something comparing itself against other countries. If it beats the US or Japan, even if its something like Kichi eaten per square metre then it becomes propoganda and shows that Kore is becoming a superpower.
I'm not knocking Korea and I do like it here but often i think a reality check is in order. i know over time this will happen as more and more people are exposed to foreigners and other countries. I just wish it would hurry up.

Good post, we can have valid criticisms and still like living here, and we should be able to express these things without being told by Kimchiking, Homer, and Beaver that we should shut up or go home.
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indytrucks



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
Did you ever notice how Korea always ranks itself against the rest of the world. Every day i hear some new statistic about something comparing itself against other countries. If it beats the US or Japan, even if its something like Kichi eaten per square metre then it becomes propoganda and shows that Kore is becoming a superpower.


This is absolutely hilarious. Shocked

Try substituting "The United States", "Canada", "England" or a number of other places for "Korea". Read the new post out loud. You'll see why this post is funny, and not funny ha ha.

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Every day i hear some new statistic about something comparing itself against other countries.


Yep, sure do. Especially on this board. I suggest a quick browse through this most recent Canada vs. America vs. the rest of the world and why everyone is better than each other thread for an example.
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am always under the impression that it isn't the power of the nation Korea is trying to project but the power of the Korean race. And it is with this racial power trip that is under alot of these factoids that it all gets really freaky.
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

weatherman wrote:
I am always under the impression that it isn't the power of the nation Korea is trying to project but the power of the Korean race. And it is with this racial power trip that is under alot of these factoids that it all gets really freaky.


Spot-on weatherman. It's eugenics.

If people can't see that then they are blind (or too busy studying hanja Twisted Evil ).


Cheers,

Joe
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try substituting "The United States", "Canada", "England" or a number of other places for "Korea". Read the new post out loud. You'll see why this post is funny, and not funny ha ha.

I have noticed this phenominon significantly more here than say New Zealand, which is the only other country I care to comment on seriously as these are the only two countries I've lived in for any length of time.
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