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mhv



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Location: Montreal, Quebec

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Being an ESL speaker v. Teaching ESL in Korea... Reply with quote

Hi all, I am a francophone Quebecer living in Montreal, and I'm interested in teaching English in Korea.

Here's why: I have a BA (English+Linguistics) and an MA in English, both from McGill University. I humbly consider my English to be rather on the good side, and I want the experience of teaching abroad.

Yes, I wrote all my term papers and my MA thesis in English, I have read Ulysses in the original and got all the corny jokes, my girlfriend (5+ years) is anglophone, I work, write, read in English (and French too, of course), etc ad nauseam.

Here's the rub: all job postings require being a "native English speaker." I've had recruiters bail on me just because I'm not native, but I don't want to base my entire opinion of the Korean job market on recruiters.

Are employers remotely likely to consider the quality of my English on the basis of my experience, rather than on the basis of being non-native? What attitude should I adopt in approaching an employer in order not to scare him/her?

Your precious advice is kindly appreciated.
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Ukon



Joined: 29 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lie?

Do you sound really french of something
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smurfetta



Joined: 03 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you can satisfy the E-2 visa requirements. You are from one of the 7 English speaking countries and you did your undergraduate degree at an English university (which I am assuming that you did). You shouldn't have any problems. Try a different recruiter or apply directly to ads posted by schools themselves.

Actually, I think that you are the perfect Canadian- you are fluent in both French and English.

Also, I know that there are other Quebecers working in Korea as English teachers.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Being an ESL speaker v. Teaching ESL in Korea... Reply with quote

mhv wrote:
Hi all, I am a francophone Quebecer living in Montreal, and I'm interested in teaching English in Korea.

Here's why: I have a BA (English+Linguistics) and an MA in English, both from McGill University. I humbly consider my English to be rather on the good side, and I want the experience of teaching abroad.

Yes, I wrote all my term papers and my MA thesis in English, I have read Ulysses in the original and got all the corny jokes, my girlfriend (5+ years) is anglophone, I work, write, read in English (and French too, of course), etc ad nauseam.

Here's the rub: all job postings require being a "native English speaker." I've had recruiters bail on me just because I'm not native, but I don't want to base my entire opinion of the Korean job market on recruiters.

Are employers remotely likely to consider the quality of my English on the basis of my experience, rather than on the basis of being non-native? What attitude should I adopt in approaching an employer in order not to scare him/her?

Your precious advice is kindly appreciated.


http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=104799

This might have some information on your situation.
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mhv



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Location: Montreal, Quebec

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Being an ESL speaker v. Teaching ESL in Korea... Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=104799

According to the author Jean-Francois Marcoux "People in Canada who graduated from French-language universities have been declared ineligible to teach English in Korea".


Well that's a good thing I graduated from an English university...

Smurfetta, I'll try answering a few ads. Worst case scenario, I can always say that I come from a bilingual family (one of my family names applies to both british and french people). I don't really like to lie, and I would be horrified to face some tight-behinded boss after 8months suddenly uncovering my dirty secret...

Ukon: I don't speak with a strong French accent, but it's still there occasionally. But I can pronounce a proper voiced or unvoiced "th" and put aspirated "h" at the right place, unlike most francophones.
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waltjocketty



Joined: 09 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's EFL, not ESL. i hate to be this guy, but it's really really annoying.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

waltjocketty wrote:
it's EFL, not ESL. i hate to be this guy, but it's really really annoying.


Nit!
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mhv



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Location: Montreal, Quebec

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

waltjocketty wrote:
it's EFL, not ESL. i hate to be this guy, but it's really really annoying.


Huh? Isn't this place called ESL caf�??
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