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Foreign Teachers Campaign for Colleague Injured in Fire
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garykasparov



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Foreign Teachers Campaign for Colleague Injured in Fire Reply with quote

Foreign Teachers Campaign for Colleague Injured in Fire

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/03/117_20066.html

William Kapoun
By Kang Shin-who
Staff Reporter

William Kapoun, 26, loved teaching kids. But the young, confident American will not be able to continue what he loves ― at least for a long while. About 10 days ago, a fire broke out at his apartment at dawn and left him with third-degree burns over 70 percent of his body.

The part-time teacher at Bulam Elementary School in northern Seoul is now in intensive care. He will have to endure reconstructive surgery on numerous occasions and a lengthy recovery. Despite the will to live, however, he lacks the means to fight the brutal battle.

The blaze not only altered his body and dreams but also laid bare working conditions that are void of shelters or insurance schemes against such terrible accidents. His full treatment is estimated to cost roughly $130,000.

His parents flew over immediately. They are also shocked by the staggering costs as he has no health insurance under his contract . ``He lived in an unsafe apartment. There was no sprinkler system or fire alarm and he had only one exit, which was blocked by the fire,�� Dan Kapoun, 53, father of William, told The Korea Times at the hospital in Seoul.

The father lamented the absence of any clear insurance policy. ``I think whoever hires someone should take responsibility for making sure there is insurance,�� he said.

He said his son was very happy when he decided to go to Korea. ``My son was very adventurous. He thought it would be a very good thing to teach English here, not only for him but also his students.��



Kapoun Burn Fund

Bulam Elementary School, the employer of the victim, said that the school is not obliged to provide any insurance coverage to employees working less than 15 hours a week in line with the Labor Law. The school has some 10 other part-time foreign teachers working under similar conditions.

William initially started to teach at a hagwon before transferring to the ``after-school�� English programs that paid him some 2.2 million won a month. He has worked here for 14 months. He holds a double-bachelors degree in history and economics from Indiana University, his home state school.

With his parents in a difficult financial situation, his friends and colleagues are joining hands to launch a campaign to raise funds via the Internet at http://www.billkapoun.com.

Calling on educational authorities to take measures to install systems to protect foreign teachers, they also lamented the absence of any organized representative body for teachers to rely on when disaster strikes.

Matthew Sellar, a part-time teacher at an elementary school in Seoul, said that the terrible situation could happen to other foreigners as well. ``The fact that William was uninsured is indicative of the larger issue that many foreign English teachers do not have insurance,�� he said. ``I wish it was easier for foreigners to report illegal activities without fear of being fired, deported, or arrested. I love Korea. I love teaching my students.��

Faulty Hiring Procedures

Apart from some 4,000 full-time foreign teachers at public schools across the country, many other schools employ native-English speaking teachers for their `after-school� programs through recruitment agencies.

In Seoul alone, there were 833 English programs after school hours. While full-time foreigners get benefits such as health insurance, pension and severance, part-time workers are not entitled to such basic packages.

Most schools hire teachers through agents and many of the part-time teachers have difficulty in communicating with their employers. That�s because agents do not care much about them once schools hire them. Some agents don�t even give contract copies to foreign teachers, William�s friends who were gathered at the hospital said.

Korea Immigration Service issues E-2 visas to foreigners as long as the employers are trustful such as public schools. Under the immigration law, holders of E-2, or working visa, are not automatically entitled to insurance coverage. There should be contracts guaranteeing insurance coverage for them to be protected by insurance.

``As far as I know E-2 visa holding foreigners are not eligible for insurance policies without contracts containing insurance coverage,�� said Kim Young-guen, an immigration official.

Adam Mueller, another native-English speaking teacher also asked the Korean government to give more attention to their difficulties. ``The situation that our friend William is in is the ultimate nightmare for a foreigner in Korea; huge medical bills, difficulty getting information and no easy access to solutions,�� he said. ``Teachers considering working in Korea will naturally have some concerns about their new life.��

If the Korean government does more to make foreigners feel confident about their safety and access to information, Korea will be able to attract more and better English teachers, he added.

Warren Franklin, who is teaching at a university, said ``If a teacher is working for an `after-school� program and is given an E2 visa they should be entitled to insurance at least.��

Meanwhile, police have yet to figure out the exact cause of the fire. They say it will take one or two more weeks to determine exact reasons.

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Mosley



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's already a thread on this topic but anyway....


How in the hell did this guy not have insurance? He should have told his scumbag employer to set it up for him. The only catch is that the article said he was "part-time". Does that remove the employer's responsibilty to provide insurance? I don't know. If that IS the case, he should have gotten his own policy.

DO NOT LIVE, WORK OR TRAVEL IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE! NOT EVEN FOR A DAY!

Edit: OK, the article says part-timers are not automatically covered. So, he should've gotten his own policy.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mosley wrote:
There's already a thread on this topic but anyway....


How in the hell did this guy not have insurance? He should have told his scumbag employer to set it up for him. The only catch is that the article said he was "part-time". Does that remove the employer's responsibilty to provide insurance? I don't know. If that IS the case, he should have gotten his own policy.

DO NOT LIVE, WORK OR TRAVEL IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY WITHOUT HEALTH INSURANCE! NOT EVEN FOR A DAY!

Edit: OK, the article says part-timers are not automatically covered. So, he should've gotten his own policy.


Most of our medical packages only cover 50% of costs. Plus the fact that we are forced to submit a health check that is not confidential and any of us could be fired for any long term illnesses.
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Mosley



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm buggering off in a week but if I ever decide to come back I'm bloody well getting extra coverage. Surely the premiums are worth peace of mind.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The man's obviously not here on an F-series visa. That means he was hired as an employee and is on an E-2 visa. That means he's a full-time employee no matter what the school wants to pretend.
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Mosley



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what I thought: anyone w/an E-2 is supposed to be enrolled in a plan...but that contradicts what the article says. There might be some serious BS going on here on somebody's part...then again could he have been on a different visa for part-timers? A C-4 or something like that?
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean a working holiday visa? United States citizens are not eligible for that.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Mosley"]That's what I thought: anyone w/an E-2 is supposed to be enrolled in a plan...but that contradicts what the article says. There might be some serious BS going on here on somebody's part...then again could he have been on a different visa for part-timers? A C-4 or something like that?[/quote]

He works part time...therefore the school doesnt need to give him medical...This is called a loophole...Even if he is on an E-2 which he is the school legally didnt have to give him medical...part time = school doesnt have to give him medical...LOOPHOLE..please remember this...I dont know how many times I've said this...
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder whether before he 'transferred to the after school system' he had insurance. It seems like it's being made out that he changed jobs within the same school from full-time to part-time so was no longer insured. I bet 50.ooo won for the fund that he didn't have insurance from the start.
Anyone, without insider knowledge, want to take that bet?
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anyangoldboy



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Cheonmunka"]I wonder whether before he 'transferred to the after school system' he had insurance. It seems like it's being made out that he changed jobs within the same school from full-time to part-time so was no longer insured. I bet 50.ooo won for the fund that he didn't have insurance from the start.
Anyone, without insider knowledge, want to take that bet?[/quote]

he most probably did have insurance but when you change schools you have to start insurance again...

And to bet on someone who is in a bad condition is pretty fin'ing low...Get a life
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyangoldboy wrote:
He works part time...therefore the school doesnt need to give him medical...This is called a loophole...Even if he is on an E-2 which he is the school legally didnt have to give him medical...part time = school doesnt have to give him medical...LOOPHOLE..please remember this...I dont know how many times I've said this...


Again, the school can pretend all they want that he's a part-timer but they sponsored him into the country as an employee. That's full-time employee no matter how few hours the school actually throws onto the board.

The boss is running this guy into the ground and showing how unethical the boss is in more ways--many more ways--than one.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
anyangoldboy wrote:
He works part time...therefore the school doesnt need to give him medical...This is called a loophole...Even if he is on an E-2 which he is the school legally didnt have to give him medical...part time = school doesnt have to give him medical...LOOPHOLE..please remember this...I dont know how many times I've said this...


Again, the school can pretend all they want that he's a part-timer but they sponsored him into the country as an employee. That's full-time employee no matter how few hours the school actually throws onto the board.

The boss is running this guy into the ground and showing how unethical the boss is in more ways--many more ways--than one.


There has got to be a minimum number of hours to even qualify for an E2.

I will bet that you can not get an E2 without full sponsorship.

If something was manipulated, it was indeed a loophole. A very tragic loophole.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
he most probably did have insurance but when you change schools you have to start insurance again...

And to bet on someone who is in a bad condition is pretty fin'ing low...Get a life



There you have it. "Change schools" or transfer?

Hey, watch what you write, too. I'm not betting on him, I'm betting for him. Money in the fund. Don't be a d1ck.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="CentralCali"][quote="anyangoldboy"]He works part time...therefore the school doesnt need to give him medical...This is called a loophole...Even if he is on an E-2 which he is the school legally didnt have to give him medical...part time = school doesnt have to give him medical...LOOPHOLE..please remember this...I dont know how many times I've said this...[/quote]

Again, the school can pretend all they want that he's a part-timer but they sponsored him into the country as an employee. That's full-time employee no matter how few hours the school actually throws onto the board.

The boss is running this guy into the ground and showing how unethical the boss is in more ways--many more ways--than one.[/quote]

again we chose to do the after school program so we can do privates...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyangoldboy wrote:

again we chose to do the after school program so we can do privates...


You're talking about an E-2 visa holder choosing to do privates? Rolling Eyes
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