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P-dog



Joined: 17 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:05 pm    Post subject: How to stop Korean chit chat Reply with quote

Hi,

Just started to try and enforce a no korean talking policy in my classroom which is proving to be rather difficult. Have cut out the main korean talking that went on but now it is just the chit chat that goes on i can't get rid of. The problem is that when i ask them what they just said and explain it in english they can translate well. But i can't get them to talk in english first in general discussion.

Does anyone have only english in their classroom and if you do how do you enforce it????

Or am i just a wishful thinker
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: How to stop Korean chit chat Reply with quote

P-dog wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have only english in their classroom and if you do how do you enforce it????

Only English in my classes. If they speak Korean it's -1% per word on their grade.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old and what level? It worked in my first hagwon because the kids had extremely good English and could mostly get by without Korean. If they wanted to ask a classmate something in Korean, they asked permission first.

In a public middle school it's impossible. I'd be thrilled if my coteachers spoke English in the classroom, to say nothing of the students. Students below a certain level simply don't have the skills or the motivation to do it, so if that's your environment, don't even try it. You can encourage them to speak English, rather than discouraging them to speak Korean, by showing how to say certain things in English. After all, the stuff they say in Korean to each other is usually quite easy: "What page?" "Give me a pencil" "What did he say?"
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Sody



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Full immersion classes are excellent ideas for adult classes and in most cases high school classes. But they are a bad idea for elementary and middle school. That goes for hagwon classes to some extent although it is possible in some hagwons provided you have a good school with good teachers.
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crazy tigger



Joined: 06 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach at a hogwan, so might not work at a public school, but what I do is I write the students names on the board and every time they speak Korean I put a mark next to their name. Originally I did it where they had to have 10 days of no student speaking Korean more than twice and they got a snack party. Now they enjoy ratting each other out too much and don't seem bothered there is no reward for it. I do intend to have some sort of punishment for those that get a few marks next to their name (maybe a bit of extra homework, having to sing a song, depends on the class) but I haven't actually got to this point.

If you have a large class maybe do the same system but as a team? Then they would have the peer pressure aspect too.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also enforce it in a very gentle way.

The ones I know have limited capability don't get punished as much, those I know are capable get more severe reprimand when they do speak Korean.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



or even better

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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy tigger wrote:
I teach at a hogwan, so might not work at a public school, but what I do is I write the students names on the board and every time they speak Korean I put a mark next to their name. Originally I did it where they had to have 10 days of no student speaking Korean more than twice and they got a snack party. Now they enjoy ratting each other out too much and don't seem bothered there is no reward for it. I do intend to have some sort of punishment for those that get a few marks next to their name (maybe a bit of extra homework, having to sing a song, depends on the class) but I haven't actually got to this point.

If you have a large class maybe do the same system but as a team? Then they would have the peer pressure aspect too.


Snack party, eh?
That might work well with the rule I just instituted in the English Cafe at my school.

If you want to speak Korean, or you can't think of the right word in English, go ahead, but you must place 100 won in the container. When there is enough money, I'll go downstairs and buy snacks for the Cafe.

In your case, you could save up the money until the students earn it with a certain number of English-only days.

Previously, the penalty was "get up and go get me a cup of water/tea" (they were playing games, so they didn't want to leave the classroom. You could use this for students who can't afford it or don't have any change. I didn't drink the water, not knowing the source, but it definitely improved the overall English effort.
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crusher_of_heads



Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: How to stop Korean chit chat Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
P-dog wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have only english in their classroom and if you do how do you enforce it????

Only English in my classes. If they speak Korean it's -1% per word on their grade.


Thanks dude-you're smarter than you look.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful. The student may spit in your water or pee in your tea.

kermo wrote:
crazy tigger wrote:
I teach at a hogwan, so might not work at a public school, but what I do is I write the students names on the board and every time they speak Korean I put a mark next to their name. Originally I did it where they had to have 10 days of no student speaking Korean more than twice and they got a snack party. Now they enjoy ratting each other out too much and don't seem bothered there is no reward for it. I do intend to have some sort of punishment for those that get a few marks next to their name (maybe a bit of extra homework, having to sing a song, depends on the class) but I haven't actually got to this point.

If you have a large class maybe do the same system but as a team? Then they would have the peer pressure aspect too.


Snack party, eh?
That might work well with the rule I just instituted in the English Cafe at my school.

If you want to speak Korean, or you can't think of the right word in English, go ahead, but you must place 100 won in the container. When there is enough money, I'll go downstairs and buy snacks for the Cafe.

In your case, you could save up the money until the students earn it with a certain number of English-only days.

Previously, the penalty was "get up and go get me a cup of water/tea" (they were playing games, so they didn't want to leave the classroom. You could use this for students who can't afford it or don't have any change. I didn't drink the water, not knowing the source, but it definitely improved the overall English effort.
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RobinR



Joined: 18 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be thrilled if my freaking BOSS (who speaks English fine) would speak to the students primarily in English... one of the most annoying things for me.
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Lekker



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I scare the Korean out of them by slamming my hand down on their desk as hard, as loud, and as fast as I can. Usually with pre teens this works quite well, but I only do it when I really have to, after I tell them about 5 times to stop talking. It works. It helps if you are big like me and can be menacing to them because they are little and weak.
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P-dog



Joined: 17 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep I am at a hagwon which makes it a bit difficult but i now have my own classroom which helps a bit as i have said in my classroom it is english only. Will try some of these tips and see how it goes.
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
Be careful. The student may spit in your water or pee in your tea.

kermo wrote:
Previously, the penalty was "get up and go get me a cup of water/tea" (they were playing games, so they didn't want to leave the classroom. You could use this for students who can't afford it or don't have any change. I didn't drink the water, not knowing the source, but it definitely improved the overall English effort.
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ibu



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just look at the pupil who is guilty of it... like this.



me: English MotherFUCK-ER do you speak it??

Then continue.
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