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Quite the predicament
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RobinR



Joined: 18 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:43 am    Post subject: Quite the predicament Reply with quote

Here's the story:

I applied with a school back home which runs a school out of my home city, and they are sub-contracted to run a section of a hagwon here. They loved me, but because I don't get my diploma until May, I was unable to apply for an E2 visa.

They decided that they really wanted me, so we decided that I'd fly over now, stay 2 months, fly home, get the visa, then fly back for the rest of the contract.

I've been here a week, and the owner of the hagwon found out and demanded that I not be working there until I've got the E2.

So, because there isn't enough paperwork here for me to work from home, I've got a few options

1) Stay, keep living at this apartment (which my employer will provide as long as I want), and my boss said they'd try to find me work as a private (read: illegal) teacher
2) Pack up and start traveling around Asia on my meager funds, return home in time to apply for the visa, then come back again and restart working for same company
3) Go home now (company pays flight), find work/slack for 4 months till I have the visa, return

I quite like the job... the 2 people I work with are great, the pay is good (about 2.4/month), and the hours are good (9-6)... I'd stay if I could.

What do you guys recommend I do? What do you think I can reasonably request from my employer, such as compensation pay, etc. etc.? I don't want to stick it to them because they've really tried their best to have me here, but I want to keep my options as open as possible.
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Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go home and live with mom and dad until you get the diploma.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your from Canada take the privates.
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RobinR



Joined: 18 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony_Balony wrote:
Go home and live with mom and dad until you get the diploma.

Aren't together, haven't lived with them in 3 years.

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If your from Canada take the privates.

Why do you recommend this? Not saying its a bad point, but reasons help.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have yet to meet a Canadian that isn't.
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RobinR



Joined: 18 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can I get some other people to weigh in on this please?
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LostinKSpace



Joined: 17 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The safest option, not necessarily the best is to go home get your paperwork in order and come back. There will always be work here.

You could do privates, but if you get caught (and the if gets big or small depending on how immi feels) then things could get really messy and you may not be able to teach in Korea for a while.

Doing some travelling around S.E Asia has risk but is probably the most fun of the three and it is what I would do as the food and weather is better than that in Korea.

The choice is basically yours..
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Netz



Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Location: a parallel universe where people and places seem to be the exact opposite of "normal"

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobinR wrote:
cbclark4 wrote:
If your from Canada take the privates.

Why do you recommend this? Not saying its a bad point, but reasons help.


Becuase Canadians :

A. Are the majority of illegal English teachers in SK.

B. Have a 6 month tourist visa.

C. Make the best illegal teachers.

D. All of the above.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Becuase Canadians :

C. Make the best illegal teachers.



Due to long tourist visas? Or are they simply better educators?
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RobinR



Joined: 18 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, what about the other questions? What can I reasonably request from my current employer as compensation, considering that I will return to work for them once I've got the visa?
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobinR wrote:
Okay, what about the other questions? What can I reasonably request from my current employer as compensation, considering that I will return to work for them once I've got the visa?


dude - have you heard part of the recent changes which means foreigners caught teaching illegally will be put in JAIL not just deported and/or fined??

please go somewhere else to post your remarks on how can you pull a smoke and mirrors act - it's jerks like you giving the rest of us a bad rep Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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RobinR



Joined: 18 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moosehead wrote:
RobinR wrote:
Okay, what about the other questions? What can I reasonably request from my current employer as compensation, considering that I will return to work for them once I've got the visa?


dude - have you heard part of the recent changes which means foreigners caught teaching illegally will be put in JAIL not just deported and/or fined??

please go somewhere else to post your remarks on how can you pull a smoke and mirrors act - it's jerks like you giving the rest of us a bad rep Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

wow... that's pretty rough. I'm not asking advice on how to break the law, but rather on which option I should pursue and what I can ask of my employer. And I'm actually a pretty good teacher, my students love me, and I've just found myself in an unfortunate position.
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xtchr



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobinR wrote:
Okay, what about the other questions? What can I reasonably request from my current employer as compensation, considering that I will return to work for them once I've got the visa?


Why would you expect compensation? For what? You got yourself in the situation, now get yourself out. Leave Korea, I don't care where you go, but come back only when you get all the proper documentation to do things legally.
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RobinR



Joined: 18 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xtchr wrote:
RobinR wrote:
Okay, what about the other questions? What can I reasonably request from my current employer as compensation, considering that I will return to work for them once I've got the visa?


Why would you expect compensation? For what? You got yourself in the situation, now get yourself out. Leave Korea, I don't care where you go, but come back only when you get all the proper documentation to do things legally.

Well not actually, if you read the original post. They said that I'd be able to work at the school as admin staff, filling in for teachers when they need subs. I've done everything that we agreed to, but now I'm finding that I need to leave the position until approx July.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Immigration catches you, you are likely heading for a nice long stay in jail. There was a teacher just last year who got six months for teaching illegally. Do you want to risk losing six months of your life plus a potential years-long ban from Korea?

Ask yourself...is it really worth it?


Go home is my advice.
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