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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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 Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: My gf's homework from an English teacher at PNU |
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| I was shocked when she brought back a homework assignment last night from her Canadian professor who teaches at Pusan National University. He wrote a sample paragraph about his hometown. It was just bad writing in general with missing commas everywhere. In one spot, he even had a really bad run-on sentence in which he used a comma instead of a period to separate two sentences. I just figured that they would be a little more picky when weeding people out for university jobs...especially ones as big as PNU. I guess I was wrong. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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Can you post the paragraph?
Which PNU teacher will come forward on Daves? |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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maybe the homework assignment was to correct his mistakes  |
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bovinerebel
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| You're not wrong you are just anal retentive . Despite what you think this actually hampers your intellectual potential . I suggest you fixate less on the little details and spend more time trying to hold ideas and concepts in your head . Try see the woods for the trees . There's a good boy . |
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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| kentucker4 wrote: |
| It was just bad writing in general with missing commas everywhere. |
| bovinerebel wrote: |
| You're not wrong you are just anal retentive . |
Case in point.
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| bovinerebel wrote: |
| You're not wrong you are just anal retentive . Despite what you think this actually hampers your intellectual potential . I suggest you fixate less on the little details and spend more time trying to hold ideas and concepts in your head . Try see the woods for the trees . There's a good boy . |
Yeah, because the deep description of his hometown flew right over my head.
I'll post the paragraph later tonight when my gf gets back. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I've met my fair share of university professors in Korea, and have seen no evidence whatsoever to suggest they deserve any more esteem than the rest of us. A good way to refute the idea that a TOEFL certificate or MA is necessary to be successful and effective in Korea is to point to university professors . . . actually, they're not "professors," are they? . . . I meant "lecturers." Matter of fact, from my experience it seems like they build university faculties the same way the Flyers built their roster in the late-90s: the bigger the better. I think a university in Gwangju was rolling out their own version of the Legion of Doom a while back. |
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bovinerebel
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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The irony . Delicious .
You missed the entire content to focus on an insignifant point . In dealing with the critique to go on to eumulate it . I wouldn't put in an application to Mensa just yet if I were you .
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| bovinerebel wrote: |
The irony . Delicious . |
It is a very common phrase and it is grammatically sound.
I think you just found your "professor" 
| bovinerebel wrote: |
The irony . Delicious .
You missed the entire content to focus on an insignifant point . In dealing with the critique to go on to eumulate it . I wouldn't put in an application to Mensa just yet if I were you . |
His point was that lecturers and professors at academic institutions should have good grammar and writing skills. You're saying that writing skills are secondary to the message being conveyed.
In academia, if you want to say something, you say it properly or people won't take you seriously.
Also, you've spelled "emulate" wrong, and "the entire content" of what? Your message? Please revise and submit again for a second grade.
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| IncognitoHFX wrote: |
| bovinerebel wrote: |
The irony . Delicious . |
It is a very common phrase and it is grammatically sound. I think you just found your "professor" |
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Lostone7
Joined: 08 Jun 2006
Location: SE Asia
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| bovinerebel wrote: |
| You're not wrong you are just anal retentive . Despite what you think this actually hampers your intellectual potential . I suggest you fixate less on the little details and spend more time trying to hold ideas and concepts in your head . Try see the woods for the trees . There's a good boy . |
OMG i just fell out of my chair!!!!!!!!!!!  I am still laughing!!
Awsome Bovinerebel! beers on me! |
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bovinerebel
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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His point was that lecturers and professors at academic institutions should have good grammar and writing skills. You're saying that writing skills are secondary to the message being conveyed.
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Intelligence is the ability to effectively adapt to stimuli within your environment .
Firstly that means that an intelligent mind effortlessly should be able to derive the meaning without the help of structured grammar . Secondly that means one should have the ability to determine which stimuli is important enough to requires action or attention , and not to fixate on that which is insignificant . F for fail on both counts . |
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bovinerebel
Joined: 27 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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edit...(repeat)
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mikeyboy122
Joined: 28 Feb 2008
Location: namyang
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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One should ponder the significance of little
person behavior, in peddle- depressed, pan-
chromatic reasonance and other highly ambient
domains. Yes?
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IncognitoHFX
Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| bovinerebel wrote: |
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His point was that lecturers and professors at academic institutions should have good grammar and writing skills. You're saying that writing skills are secondary to the message being conveyed.
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Intelligence is the ability to effectively adapt to stimuli within your environment .
Firstly that means that an intelligent mind effortlessly should be able to derive the meaning without the help of structured grammar . Secondly that means one should have the ability to determine which stimuli is important enough to requires action or attention , and not to fixate on that which is insignificant . F for fail on both counts . |
No, I agree with you in that conveying the message is important and in most cases, it is acceptable to ignore grammar and other things in face of recognizing the intelligence in an argument. But we're talking about academia and standards, and in academics there should be standards for grammar and spelling, especially when the teaching of a language is concerned.
If you're intelligent enough to make an elaborate argument, why no go the extra step and do so properly? Especially in an academic setting heavily set in certain traditions.
NEway, i personally think its better dat professors & intellectuals dont all speak l337 or n3tsp34k. standards r important.
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