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Explat
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Downtown Pleides
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 Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: Reconsidering Vista |
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I got tired of waiting for SP1 and reinstalled Vista on my laptop, which I've had for a year.
Vista never worked too good, and it got worse as time went on. One of the big irritants was how slowly the right click menus worked. The whole OS just seemed really sluggish compared to XP.
Well, on reinstall the sluggishness went away. I of course did the whole windows update thing. I am using the Norton Symantec antivirus that came with the machine.
Some antivirus programs can slow down things a lot, especially the right click menu. Before the reinstall, I noticed that I was having trouble right clicking on large files, like zip stuff. Apparently the antivirus program was insisting on scanning the file before it let the menu appear. When I turned off this feature, it worked a little better. So the antivirus program can make for problems.
One of the optional settings lets you do a global change to improve performance or appearance. I clicked performance, of course. Later I noticed the photo thumbnails had disappeared. Finally figured out this was a result of the global change. So I fixed that.
There are lots of other default settings that you might want to change.
But I just wanted to let you know Microsoft has fixed some of the performance problems. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah i like vista. I would recommend removing Norton and going with AVG or another free virus program. Norton is BLOATWARE and evil. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Go 64 bit w/4g dual channel...it's blazing!  |
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SeoulFinn
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: 1h from Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| After installing all necessary updates I turned off the eye-candy and disabled UAC. I also disabled system restore. My windows is not much to look at, as I am using classic theme and menus to speed up the thing, but I use Vista only when I want to play games. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: Re: Reconsidering Vista |
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| Explat wrote: |
I got tired of waiting for SP1 and reinstalled Vista on my laptop, which I've had for a year.
Vista never worked too good, and it got worse as time went on. One of the big irritants was how slowly the right click menus worked. The whole OS just seemed really sluggish compared to XP.
Well, on reinstall the sluggishness went away. I of course did the whole windows update thing. I am using the Norton Symantec antivirus that came with the machine.
Some antivirus programs can slow down things a lot, especially the right click menu. Before the reinstall, I noticed that I was having trouble right clicking on large files, like zip stuff. Apparently the antivirus program was insisting on scanning the file before it let the menu appear. When I turned off this feature, it worked a little better. So the antivirus program can make for problems.
One of the optional settings lets you do a global change to improve performance or appearance. I clicked performance, of course. Later I noticed the photo thumbnails had disappeared. Finally figured out this was a result of the global change. So I fixed that.
There are lots of other default settings that you might want to change.
But I just wanted to let you know Microsoft has fixed some of the performance problems. |
Vista is not sluggish in any way, and I am still in a pre-SP1 state. Norton is total crap (and is most assuredly the problem)...install it only on computers owned by people you don't like. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Happy Vista user here.
Ultimate x64. 4GB's RAM. No problems.
It can be a little worrying in Vista to see the RAM usage go way up when you watch HD movies, burn ISO's at high speeds..etc........but that's what is supposed to happen. Vista utilises a lot more RAM than XP, to avoid your system needing to use the HDD as virtual RAM which is slower than purely using RAM.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/02/15/vista_workshop/page5.html
I've been using Vista for a full year now. Even last March when I first installed Vista it was very stable.
As said before, Norton has become evil. It's the most paranoid security program out there. It does way too much and only succeeds in slowing your system down. Free AVG does a fine job. Vista has better security than XP anyway. You only need a very light anti-virus with Vista. |
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Explat
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Downtown Pleides
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| Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Demophobe wrote:
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| Vista is not sluggish in any way, and I am still in a pre-SP1 state. Norton is total crap (and is most assuredly the problem)...install it only on computers owned by people you don't like. |
I should have explained that I was not using Norton before the reinstall. I tried a few different anti-virus programs, and had problems with some of them. My laptop, like most American computers, comes with a free 90 day subscription to Norton. When you reinstall, you can do another 90 days. So I figured I would give it a try again.
I do not agree with your assessment of Norton. While it is not the best, it is certainly not the worst. I have not had any problems using Norton.
As to the issue of sluggishness, apparently people's results vary, as do the cablibre of the machines used. Perhaps newer releases of Windows incorporate some of these improvements.
I had reinstalled Vista several times before, but not in the past 8 months, and was not able to get rid of the suggishness or other problems. This time it worked.
Others have noted the same thing:
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My clean installation of Ultimate with SP1 unquestionably behaved more snappily than either the original Vista or Vista with SP1 downloaded and installed. Snappiness refers to the speed at which menus respond, windows are redrawn, programs and data files open and close, and so forth. From the beginning, Vista had some significant issues with excessive hard drive use. The drive light would routinely stay fully or mostly lit for many minutes at a time, even when most programs had been closed. The downloaded SP1 improved this quite a bit, resulting in crisper performance, but the clean installation has improved the situation enormously. Then again, the clean installation has fewer programs installed, so you can't make a direct comparison.
But even with Office 2007 Professional, Adobe Creative Suite CS3, and Norton System Works 2008 on the machine and various components of each running (Outlook, Word, InDesign, Acrobat, and Norton AV, for instance), the drive light stayed remarkably unlit on the SP1 clean install. |
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2192558,00.asp
BTW, I also turn of index service. You need to turn it off as soon as you do the reinstall or it will build up a huge data library on your drive. And you need to figure out how to turn it off globally. You can, however, set indexing for only your actual data files, such as word processing, etc. But if you don't search your files a lot, who needs it?
However, if I had a choice with a new computer, I would still pick XP, or even 2000. I don't think most people realize there was little difference between XP and Windows 2000, except that XP requires online authentication. |
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