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Bingo
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject: Was Moses using drugs? New theory says he was. |
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An Israeli scientist believes Moses was high on drugs when he wrote his section of the bible. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080304120710.ad7gm7i6&show_article=1
I'd question whether Moses actually existed at all. He certainly did not write the books attributed to him. That's a certainty. But whoever did write the numerous books of the bible, they might well have been on drugs (or mentally ill). How else could one expain the book of Revelations or a talking snake.
If hallucinagents (sp) were indeed part of the culture back then, I wouldn't doubt that the authors were high on them when they put pen to paper.
When I get back to Canada I'm going to read the bible the next time I smoke up. Maybe I'll get some new insights into what the writers were on about. 
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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I question whether you exist. |
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philipjames
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Wouldn't that be a brilliant irony. Christian groups go apoplectic over the legalization of recreational drugs. It would be immensely satisfying to see the look on their smug faces if it is ever proven that Jesus and his followers smoked pot.  |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Most of the OT seems like pretty standard oral history, nothing too wierd there by the standards of the times (praising the braining of babies against rocks, par for the course of the Iron Age). But then there is the Book of Revelations, that's some wierd-ass shit. |
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anyangoldboy
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="RACETRAITOR"]I question whether you exist.[/quote]
That made me laugh... |
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philipjames
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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The following book is essential reading for anyone interested in the bible (as an historical document). It deals exclusively with the OT but it is a fascinating look at the politics behind the rival parties seeking to claim the mantel of Moses. Whether he actually existed or not is questionable. But the masses and many religious leaders believed he did, so it was important to be sen as his heir. (Just as Muslims today battle over who are Mohammed's righful heirs (Sunnis or Shia).
I picked it up at Kyopo book store, but it's also available through 'What the Book?' in Itaewon. I highly recommend that anyone who is genuinely interested in the 'who wrote it' aspect of Hebrew mythology buy and read this book.
It's written by a highly respected professor o Hebrew studies, so it carries a lot of weight.
http://www.whatthebook.com/book/9780060630355? |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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is moses mentioned in egyptian texts? it would seem 2 million folks leaving would get alot of ink. the egyptians wrote everything down. |
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Underwaterbob

Joined: 08 Jan 2005 Location: In Cognito
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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philipjames wrote: |
The following book is essential reading for anyone interested in the bible (as an historical document). It deals exclusively with the OT but it is a fascinating look at the politics behind the rival parties seeking to claim the mantel of Moses. Whether he actually existed or not is questionable. But the masses and many religious leaders believed he did, so it was important to be sen as his heir. (Just as Muslims today battle over who are Mohammed's righful heirs (Sunnis or Shia).
I picked it up at Kyopo book store, but it's also available through 'What the Book?' in Itaewon. I highly recommend that anyone who is genuinely interested in the 'who wrote it' aspect of Hebrew mythology buy and read this book.
It's written by a highly respected professor o Hebrew studies, so it carries a lot of weight.
http://www.whatthebook.com/book/9780060630355? |
I read: "It's written by a high respected professor o Hebrew studies..."
Kind of fit the theme.. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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I vote drunk or mentally ill because there's so much violence, killing and not least a direct endorsement for a disgustingly severe form of totalitarianism. If they were on drugs, it'd be more mellowed out. |
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Bingo
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Good point. But there were diferent types of drugs, and individuals can have bad trips and good trips. Also depends on the quality of what they smoked. If he existed, Jesus probably had the good stuff (love thy neighbour, give that guy a hug, etc.) and the author of Genesis had really nasty stuff (Is that snake talking to me? / God wants me to kill everyone in the next village. / My wife just turned into a pillar of salt, man. / etc.)
I think that guy might be onto something. Look at the middle east today. While alcohol is verboten , they'll smoke anything they can get their hands on.  |
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philipjames
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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It's quite possible that the authors were consuming drugs (plants) in their diet and didn't know it. So when they saw angels playing harps, demons screaming at them, or heard voices in the night, they probably had no idea that they were having a drug-induced trip. They had to explain all these weird things somehow. And since most cultures back them believed in sky gods, we get a sky god explanation. Today when we have a trip we know it's the drugs messing with us. Back then it was gods and demons trying to communicate with them.
Interesting theory anyway. |
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Underwaterbob

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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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I've yet to hear of a drug that makes you actually experience anything like revelations.
And what the hell were the people who wrote like 12 chapters on circumcision smoking? |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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but...circumcision is a good thing. africans are discovering that circumcised guys transmit lotsa bad STD beasties at a much lower rate.
they were also right about pork. easy to seen how good rules for living could get enshrined. |
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philipjames
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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How were they right about pork?????? |
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Bingo wrote: |
Good point. But there were diferent types of drugs, and individuals can have bad trips and good trips. Also depends on the quality of what they smoked. If he existed, Jesus probably had the good stuff (love thy neighbour, give that guy a hug, etc.) and the author of Genesis had really nasty stuff (Is that snake talking to me? / God wants me to kill everyone in the next village. / My wife just turned into a pillar of salt, man. / etc.)
I think that guy might be onto something. Look at the middle east today. While alcohol is verboten , they'll smoke anything they can get their hands on.  |
So basically:
Old testament was rife with blotter acid.
New testament was MDMA.
Just think what would have happened if:
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Then Moses led the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because The Lord descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, the whole mountain trembled violently, and the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder (early Techno music?). Then Moses spoke and The Voice of God answered him."
"The Lord descended to the top of Mount Sinai and called Moses to the top of the mountain. So Moses went up and The Lord said to him, "Go down and warn the people so they do not force their way through to see The Lord and many of them perish. Even the priests, who approach The Lord, must consecrate themselves, or The Lord will break out against them."
And Moses said to the Lord. "That's way to far to go back down. I can't be a r s e d, have you got any beer, I'm parched..." Lighting up a fatty boombatty, Moses noticed a squirrel with his head stuck in a tree trunk and sat and watched it for most of the evening. The commandments were never delivered. |
Then the rest of the bible would never have happened. |
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